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Message: [QUOTE="Rooster, post: 1232891, member: 19605"] If you are going to be trail riding, I would make this suggestion: WR250F. You can grow into it, the newer ones have E-start for those tricky off camber situations, the mods that can be done (I've done most of them, and most of them are easy) can turn that bike into a really fun machine. I've left a few 450's in nothing but vapor trails more than a few times. :boss: If you go with the TTR, I feel you will grow out of it in a year and wish you had gone another route. Best of luck, hope you get a bike soon. [/QUOTE]