Stupid Kyoto Treaty!!

I hear ya! Canada has said they will most likely ratify the Kyoto Accord, but it will KILL the oil and gas industry in our country. Funny how the government only seems to listen to the eco-freaks and their statistics, but rejects actual scientific PROOF that global warming is a myth.

Be glad you have Dubya in office. Can you imagine if Gore was running the show? yikes!

Dave

Here is an interesting read on that matter:

Ozone hole to start shrinking and will close in 50 years, say scientists
By Kathy Marks in Sydney
18 September 2002
The hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica is about to start shrinking and will close by 2050, Australian researchers say. Government scientists at Cape Grim in Tasmania said scientific data showed the level of ozone-depleting chlorine in the atmosphere was declining because of the ban on the use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) in fridges and air conditioners, agreed under the Montreal Protocol in 1987.

Dr Paul Fraser, the chief atmospheric research scientist with the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, said: "This is big news. We have been waiting for this. We think the trend is definite now. It is very significant."

Dr Fraser said that after the ban was adopted, the atmospheric level of chlorine continued to rise, peaking in 2000. "That was simply due to old refrigerators and old air-conditioners in cars," he says.

Since then, the level had stabilised and was now declining, albeit slowly, Dr Fraser said. He predicted that the hole in the ozone layer would contract steadily from about 2005 and disappear by mid-century, although the ozone would be vulnerable for a decade.

Under the Montreal Protocol, developing countries committed themselves to halving consumption and production of CFCs by 2005 and achieving an 85 per cent cut by 2007. The hole in the ozone layer, which protects Earth from the Sun's ultraviolet rays, was first detected nearly 30 years ago. It was then three times the size of Australia, itself covering nearly 3 million square miles.

In a reference to the international dissent over the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions, Dr Fraser said: "I think this shows global protocols can work."

Earlier this month, Russia said it would ratify Kyoto, meaning that enough big carbon dioxide producers had signed up for it to take effect without America, which has refused to support it.




I think I'll keep my 2-stroke :yeehaw:

Bid retracted!

i know i should stay away from these threads!

Senior KX Rider, you don't really consider that good news for us, do you?
The ecos will use this as an argument that just proves that they were right with everything they did and said in the last decades. They will say this only shows that regulations and restrictions should be further increased in order to close the ozone hole much faster than predicted by these scientists.

Used motorcycles are so cheap here in Japan in the first place, why even bother taking one over from the US? You could sell that one and buy an identical used one here for about half the price!!

Besides, I love the fact that I can still ride a street-legal 2-stroke crotch-rocket here. This thing is awesome!

Don't remember saying it was good news for us. :confused: ;) I think I said it was an interesting read......Because you very seldom find a story that presents that side.....And I will keep my 2 strokes :yeehaw:

So will I !

And I too!
Seems I misunderstood you SeniorKX! :)

I'm just interested in how we hand over the planet to our children and grandchildren if we don't implement some controls around conservation.

Before there is wholesale outcry in this forum, I'm not a tree hugging greenie who hasn't bathed in 6 months...In fact I've ridden bikes for the past 25 years and love the sport.

I am concerned that governments around the world let industries polute the environment at alarming rates whilst ignoring the long term effect this has on future generations.

Would the big factories have developed the new generation of 4 strokes as quickly, if at all, if not pushed by some governments to reduce 2 strokes? While there are plenty of riders sticking with 2 strokes, there are also huge numbers defecting to thumpers.

I believe the riding fraternity globally has generally been pretty responsible and has had a bad wrap because we are an easy target. Maybe (just a thought) if we were more proactive in promoting conservation we would become less of a target.

Wattsy puts his flame suit on.

The dirt bike magazines particularly ABD here in Australia secretly have a push the four stroke agenda. The bull@#$% they write about owning and riding two strokes is incredible. This coupled with tree hugging greenie wankers blaming the two stroke for the world environment makes it hard. To blame a two stroke dirt bike which may or may not be ridden 60-200km in a week sometimes not ridden at all as being a major polluter is rubbish. Does everybody think an average dirt bike is ridden as much as the family car??? Does anyone calculate the extra oil from a 200km oil service on these four bangers being dropped outta the sump???? You dump more oil in a week than I dump in 3 months of gearbox oil changes but Im the polluter!!!!

Thats all irrelevant. The amount of exhaust gasses and oil waste created by people in our sport has absolutely nothing to do with global warming. :flame: Mother nature herself creates most of the greenhouse gasses and more oil seeps thru the floor of the sea than we will ever run through our gear boxes. The Kyoto Treaty is just another scam being perpetrated by the UN and thats about as far as I can take that without taking this thread somewhere it should not go. :flame: :flame:

May I assist then? :)

It is an attack, as stated by Sr., perpetrated by the United Nations, and backed by many radical eviro groups, on capitilism. Pure and simple.
To suppress and regulate industry based on nothing more than speculation, it can be nothing more. As SR. pointed out, there are just as many speculative reports that thrash other current specualtions.
In my opinion, I think we will find that we HAVE been very conscience of our environment over the past 50 years and many steps have already been taken to help with things that are obviously needed.
But to blatently attack our way of life using nothing more than speculative data at best, there has to be alterior motives. And as I sated before, I see the attack being one upon capitilism, in an effort to socialise our world. I, for one, do not want to take that path. To many lifes lost and battles won to let freedom and advancement of the human species go up in smoke...pun intended. :)

Originally posted by Senior KX Rider
thats about as far as I can take that without taking this thread somewhere it should not go. :flame: :flame:

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Like that ;)