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Message: [QUOTE="Pete Payne, post: 658139, member: 20445"] Slapnut, You would have to hone for days in a row and go through many ball hones before you could remove enough qualitycylinder plating to actually open up the cylinder bore a couple of thosandths. When you use a rigid cylinder hone Sunnen, (the leader in honing equipment) recomends that you use a cork based honing stone . This special stone will not remove nicasil , it just removes burnt on oil and deposits. You do make a good point as to when you use a ball hone to go slow and to not use one that is way larger than the cylinder bore as you could damage the plating at the port edge. All you have to do is use some sense. This is probably why wiseco recomends to use the brush type or plateu style hone. hope this helps ---Pete. [/QUOTE]