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Message: [QUOTE="Okiewan, post: 1332357, member: 16119"] Uh.. that may be partially true and in far too many cases, completely true. However.... Exposure to all the little uh... "kids" they hang with, try to keep up with, etc., are also part of the problem. Contrary to popular belief, how OTHER parents raise (or don't) their kids has a direct impact on your own kids. Any parent will tell ya the same thing, it's all good until they get exposed to the world, friends, MTV ..."Sweet 16" comes to mind as well as The "Real" (seriously?) World, etc. You can't keep them in a closet :) We're blessed that our daughter came out well... we surely gave it every effort and considered raising her the most important thing we'll do in our lives. Even so, yeah, she got in trouble (typical teenager trouble) , but now at 24 and a nurse we are quite proud of her. It damn sure wasn't easy. [/QUOTE]