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Message: [QUOTE="BSWIFT, post: 1237587, member: 16802"] The 172 is a very comfortable plane. Not as agile as the 152 but not as twitchy. I learned to fly in a 1949 Luscomb, metal skin with a 65 horse Lycoming. Stick and rudder, no flaps. Basic "T" instrument cluster. We could still outrun a Super Cub.;) It was later fitted with one NavCom and a transponder. It was a speed demon, 85 IAS, LOL. Moved up to a Cherokee 140 with full avionics. Kind of like going from a 75 Datsun to 06 Lexus. If I win the lottery someday, I'll get my PPL but until then I'll just have to remember, "the good ol' days" of my youth. [/QUOTE]