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Message: [QUOTE="AKCPlumb, post: 548235, member: 29577"] D36-108A Right on the money "A roll chart, clock or stopwatch, and a resettable odometer are every bit as effective as a computer, possibly more so. But you do have to learn when to stop looking at them and just ride like your hair is on fire." DP400 If you get a chance this coming weekend go to your local riding area, find the tightest trails you can and set up a course that is at least a mile long. time yourself throuh it a few times and figure out what your speed average is. When you get the roll cart mark those speed averages in green that are above what you can maintain, these are thae areas you do not need to timekeep in as 108A has said. If you hit one of the "green" areas and it is wide open road you will knwo that this section is eaiser than the single track you figured out your average and may need to keep time. [/QUOTE]