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Message: [QUOTE="bte, post: 580876, member: 22969"] I had a 01TM 250E, I how have a GG 200 and have had alot of time on a 00 KTM 300mxc (brother-in-law's). The TM is a very nice bike and is well thoughtout design. I woud say that the TM's are more setup for a A-B class rider, it's not a play bike. My bike turned well and felt very neutral. It also did not seem to have alot of bottom-end power, but would rip up-top. I 'm a small guy only about 155 pounds and I could bring up the front-end in any gear at any time. I have ridden just about all KTM 125-525, 2000-2003. The KTM seems to be a good all-around bike with a good power range from bottom to top. The KTM's are more forgiving of a mistake you might make, were the TM would bite you sometimes. To me the KTM's still don't seem to turn as good as some other bikes out there but, is still a solid bike all-around. The GG's seem to be the 4-strokes of the 2-stroke world. They are all very smooth with what seems to be very little hit anywhere. The GG feel like most jap. bike out there. They turn very well and the power is so smooth it will fool you. You will think you are not going anywhere but your lap times will get faster. It just comes down to what you like in a bike . All have good and bad point. I would try to ride them back to back on the same trail before I decided on one. brown [/QUOTE]