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Message: [QUOTE="weimedog, post: 187109, member: 20655"] Where things were flat& no boulders I used a Scraper and a Loader for cut & built type operations and my road grader for the first cut on an overall layout be it a track or a road....but where I am building a track now my backhoe & farm tractor with a bush hog&box scraper are flexible enough to do all I want. A skid steer is too top heavy & too small. A loader too big. A Scraper and Road Grader too clumsy. A tracked peice of equipment to slow and limited for the other things in my life( But effective). Most people can't afford commercial equipment anyway much less maintain those things. For what I have for terrain a couple of options would work: An old track loader. Like a Deere 350 or 450. Even a track loader/hoe. They can be had for cheap. 10,000 - 15,000 in decent condition. Of course it would be used 90 percent for track maintainance. To heavy&slow to drag around or run down to the neigbors for odd jobs. So its cheap but limited and my wife wouldn't let on go across our yard for garden work. An old backhoe. Not A Case (even thought thats what I have) The John Deeres are way more stable. Something like a John Deere 410 D four wheel drive hoe. (Stay away from those early 510's) These can be had for under 20K in decent condition. A backhoe is so much more versitle than a tracked vehicleand can run up and down the road. A track vehicle is bound to your track location unless you have a trailer setup to haul it around. I've seen folks spend more money on pickups than is required to get a really nice older hoe. Hoes are so versitle is amazing. Just takes a little longer to get things done as they are a compromize machine. Of course dirt is my business so my sense of cost may be out of wack. [/QUOTE]

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