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Message: [QUOTE="motomike137, post: 528061, member: 26431"] The flipside to all this is that the "fast rider" needs to use good judgement also. I'm a pretty decent rider who frequently practices at a very popular local track. This track attracts a lot of casual riders. I have learned to be patient with most of these guys. It is not worth risking ny health or theirs just to make one jump on one lap of practice. I save all my commitment type stuff for motos when I'm out there with guys I know. [/QUOTE]