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Message: [QUOTE="RoadRunner, post: 102714, member: 16571"] [b]Speaking of 4 strokes being loud[/b] I think I saw an fmf add for a new muffler that brings the 98-99 decibel yzfs down to 93 db. It ain't silent, but anyone who knows the difference between 93 and 99 or even 105 db with some of the pipes out there will tell you it's a major reduction. Environmentalists wont be happy with 93, probably not 83 either....but it's a step in the right direction. [/QUOTE]