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Message: [QUOTE="High Lord Gomer, post: 1147743, member: 16469"] You are right to push the bike down lower than your body. Use that position to put weight on the outside peg. Berm or no berm, the greater the downward force the better your traction will be. What really limits how much lower you can get the bike than your body is that your inside leg will hit the ground if you try to go too far. Notice the body position of someone who knows what they're doing: [url]http://themxtrack.com/BillyTurn.jpg[/url] [/QUOTE]