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Message: [QUOTE="YZ250man, post: 33788, member: 16133"] This is confusing. I don't upshift w/o clutch under power, only with throttle off, but almost always use it when downshifting.  Isn't downshifting w/o clutch considered 'shifting under load?" The only times I really use the clutch is to take off, feather for power, and downshifts.  Is it OK to downshift w/o clutch (of course, not under power)? Clarification, please.  I'd rather buy clutches than transmissions, so I'd really like to know when it is most necessary to use the clutch to avoid abusing the transmission. If *no* clutch use on a downshift is not abuse, then gee, that alone can make me faster. [img]http://dirtrider-forum.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/img] ------------------ Dave 89 YZ250WR <p align=right>12-15-1999 :Edited<p align=right>12-18-1999 :Edited [/QUOTE]