Red 250 said:The bike so far starts right up no problem. If thats the indicator perhaps Ill let it go for a few more hours.
Red 250 said:rostifer just posted that I would know when to adjust if the bike was hard to start correct?? So what am I to assume??
Is that what it said in your manual.? :think:rostifer said:With that bike you'll adjust them everyonce in a while. You'll know when its time to adjust when your bike gets hard to start. .
Red 250 said:I will assume that you want to pick a fight with me for no reason. But what do I know. I asked a simple question and I get attitude from you.
Red 250 said:I will assume that you want to pick a fight with me for no reason. But what do I know. I asked a simple question and I get attitude from you. If what you say is true fine but I am getting conflicting information. If this is the way new members asking questions are treated here maybe I need to go somewhere else. How you got mod status here is beyond me. But you got the power so be it. This is one part of riding that I despise. Most people will bend over backwards to help while some want to feel like they are above others in the sport. I never understood what made them feel so far superior to everyone else.
To everyone else who replied thanks for trying to help a Noob out.................Red
Its all about perception. Perhaps he is the nicest guy on the planet and knows more than anyone else about this subject. But then again perception is a funny thing. I never started to get on his bad side not that i really care if i do. Look at his first post concerning this subject. Rather than posting up a logical answer he had to make sure to add the crazy smiley in there just for fun. I perceived that as an insult . More or less telling me that he didn't take me seriously. Maybe just me but if you have information that is correct rather than trying to be the BMOC he may just post up with the info without adding the little stuff to make himself feel superior. Just me I guessIndyMX said:Rich didn't say anything to you that even came close to attitude..
He's probably one of the smartest guys on here, I think I'd take his advice over the other dude that told you to not worry about it until the bike was hard to start.
Which advice sounded more logical?
If you do a little looking around here, and reading some of what Rich has to say, I'm sure you'll quickly come to realize that you are shooting yourself in the foot by getting on his bad side.
I assure you, that if you were to make friends with him, he'd be a great source of very useful and accurate information.
He's helped me a great deal. Hell, he gave me some great advice today, and probably saved me quite a bit of money.
But, if you want to think that he's giving you attitude, that's your right.
Red 250 said:Its all about perception. Perhaps he is the nicest guy on the planet and knows more than anyone else about this subject. But then again perception is a funny thing. I never started to get on his bad side not that i really care if i do. Look at his first post concerning this subject. Rather than posting up a logical answer he had to make sure to add the crazy smiley in there just for fun. I perceived that as an insult . More or less telling me that he didn't take me seriously. Maybe just me but if you have information that is correct rather than trying to be the BMOC he may just post up with the info without adding the little stuff to make himself feel superior. Just me I guess
I never asked for anyone to sugercoat anything. I never asked him to prove anything to me. I never said he didn't have the knowledge. I asked a simple question expected a correct answer.IndyMX said:That crazy smiley was meant for the guy that gave you the bad info..
Rich doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, you only have to read his history to know that he's got the knowledge and experience to back up what he's saying..
He won't ever sugar coat what he's got to say either.
We're adults here, we have thick enough skin to ride dirtbikes, we should have thick enough skin to take straight talk from a guy like Rich.
Red 250 said:I asked a simple question expected a correct answer.
Yes we are adults here and I would hope that I would get treated like one with just a touch of respect for having made it through life as a dirt rider. I am done with this subject I will simply ask my local shop for help from now on. I don't need the hassle. Arguing over the internet serves no purpose...... Thanks
I guess my question to you is this:Red 250 said:Ol'89r Thanks for the concise post. I am a Admin of a site dealing with the car I own so I know what it is to deal with misinformation. And people who don't want to behave. I meant no disrespect to anyone. I just asked for some info. Then this whole thing got out of hand with some other posts that seemed to be a bit on the edgy side .. I never said that the info I got from Rich Rohrich was wrong nor that I think he was talking out the wrong end. I just felt that the way in which the post went it made it appear as if he was (excuse the expression) pissing up my leg.
red250 said:Respect is earned in my book. I try as much as possible to earn others respect but I don't expect it from them unless I earn it in some way. I am new here and I haven't been actively involved in dirt bikes since the late 70's. I was however a service manager for Honda for a couple of years and for 2 years before that I worked for a local Yamaha dealership. I was sent to Yamaha in southern California for training. Things have changed a lot since I got out of the whole motorcycle thing and the bikes of today are completely different than they were back then. I have read the manual cover to cover. But I just wanted some advice to help me get the job done.
Your post helped me understand clearly what the dangers of waiting to long...
If I offended anyone I apologize............. Thanks ................Red
fatcat216 said:I guess my question to you is this:
Three posts prior to the "you'll know it is a problem when you can't start your bike post" were informative, detailed, gave you numbers, encouragement and information. One poster basically told you could blow it off and then you changed your tune from "I'll do it this weekend" to "Maybe I'll wait a few more months".
Rich, while his usual brief self, jumped in to save you from yourself. You don't know Rich, nor his sense of humor, and sure the rest of us do, but actually that is immaterial to this. He very kindly jumped in to save you from focusing on the bad information, and furthermore told you you'd have some costly problems.
If you understand the problem of misinformation by being an owner of another forum it seems a simple thank you would have kept your leg from being pissed on.-I'd check the direction of the stream as it were, to find the guilty party- it sure wasn't Rich.
I honestly feel you owe him (and the three posters prior and three posters after) a very humble thank you for saving you from yourself. It was your choice to focus on the one post which justified your blowing the job off. You have only yourself to blame. Rich in his own little buddhist way merely said "hey, if you don't want to take my advice the consequences are yours, I'm not gonna get upset about it"...
I guess, being a mom who just hangs around this stuff and not particularly mechanical.... ...I find the last part of your statement of having been a service manager and sent to Yamaha for training incomprehensible in the context of all of this. My best friend is a service manager at an autodealership and a self taught tuner for Honda.... He would never ever ever take the "I can blow this off" advice with that kind of training. I know this isn't going to help for me to shame you, but you've read the riot act to the wrong person(s). The person you should be wagging your finger at is the one you see in the mirror each day.
Mods delete me if this is just too much, but, I'm completely flabbergasted on this one.
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