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Message: [QUOTE="2 strokes for life, post: 1196002, member: 74602"] Moose, i figured if he could handle the YZF450 without much problems i figured the YZ450F would be the same. I was ridding a sportsman 500HO and learnd to dirtbike on a 03 Honda CRF450R so i thought the jump for baldwinc1 would not be bad. baldwinc1, if you are ridding trails more then tracks or not ridding tracks at all the WR450 would be easyer to handle and has electric start. It weighs a bit more then the YZ but thats a give for what you get. [/QUOTE]