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Message: [QUOTE="burgunder, post: 1138816, member: 72783"] Thanks again for all the information. As far as the 250s go, I have a 03 250f. It's a great bike but not nearly as fun as my 125. The light weight and handling are incredable. I looked into the 250 2stroke, but for what I paid for the 125, I can have the 144 with everything (guards, pipe, ect.) for less. The 125 just needs a little more "ummpf" for the woods and I think the 144 is perfect. Thanks again. [/QUOTE]