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Message: [QUOTE="Rotorranch, post: 1233197, member: 75385"] My kid rides an '04 KXF250. He's a 15 yo, 125 pound weakling. His bike starts first or second kick most eveytime. :cool: But, he uses the kick starter, not the kickstand! :laugh: :rotfl: Do a search. Learn some basics. Get a manual, then [i]READ IT[/i]. There is a thread somewhere on DRN that explains a lot of the terminology that you will see being used here, such as TDC, or Top Dead Center. See if you can find that, and read it, then re-read it. :nod: Rotor BTW...my bike never gets turned on when I kick it. She's not that kind of girl! :coocoo: [/QUOTE]