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Message: [QUOTE="4EverOrange, post: 591231, member: 40164"] I guess I should have mentioned the stupid things at stupid times are almost always hitting the brakes at the wrong time i.e. when I am just starting to head down a hill, so I completely lose momentum and go over. That was how I got slammed into the embankement. Normally I just would've fallen over, however in this particular case I was on top of one of the aforementioned VW sized boulders. Rarely are my crashes in any gear higher than 1st or 2nd, and normally result in minor if any aches and pains. BTW - Y2Z you really know how to break down a woman's ego. :( You must be either young or not married, and I would venture to be it's both. [/QUOTE]