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Message: [QUOTE="reepicheep, post: 1356364, member: 104942"] Apples to oranges I know, but with the crank seal on the old style (tuber) Buells (a hopped up sportster motor) you will start to see them failing around 20k miles, though many will go 30k or even 50k miles. FWIW, you can replace those without a case split. Heck, for the old Buells (pre XB), you can replace the transmission without a case split. Which probably just makes the point that it's not that big a deal for a KDX motor, which isn't going anywhere near 20k miles without splitting the cases for some other reason anyway. [/QUOTE]