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Message: [QUOTE="XMotoX, post: 1237663, member: 73236"] So you are really set on getting a four stroke huh? If I were riding desert mainly, like you said, and did some mountain trail riding, I'd like a trail tuned two stroke. You'll love them on the dunes and when hillclimbing. You won't get a lot of top end power out of a four stroke 250. Maybe a 450, but two strokes shine in this area. If you think you can still be convinced to get a two stroke, check these out: KTM 200EXC KTM 300EXC Suzuki RMX250 Kawasaki KDX200 Kawasaki KDX220 The KDX's might need suspension tuning, but they can be found for great prices, so your 3 grand would cover it. [/QUOTE]