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Message: [QUOTE="bud, post: 226142, member: 16160"] Saratoga, you're right, I can't picture from your description how really high levers have any useful effect, at least for woods riding. I often lean way back, with arms practically parrallel with the seat (eg for steep downhills) and have no trouble reaching the levers. Then again I cut my levers off at about 2/3 length and maybe I have big hands/ long fingers... If your fingers are pointing toward the crossbar, how can you possibly hold the grips, let alone use the clutch and brake?? I will try to have a look at some high lever fast guys in action though. moto242, you may be right, but I as far as I can tell I never have my hands forward of straight in line with my forearm. Unless I'm riding with sagging elbows. [/QUOTE]