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Message: [QUOTE="Rippfmc, post: 207238, member: 22476"] The best thing i have noticed about trail rideing is the bike i ride really helps... i ride a ttr 225 it is lower to the ground so i can take turns really fast. it has a lot of torque and BEST OF ALL it hAs an Eletric START!!.i know you guys remember those tiimes when you are hill climbing and all of a sudden your bike stalls on that really steep hill about mid way up it. well that eletric start really helps. if you want to talk about low 1st gear. i can ride my bike at idle i can go down t he road at 2-3 mph without stalling!!!:) [/QUOTE]