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Message: [QUOTE="cactusreid, post: 649984, member: 38527"] Strick, I agree with your statements. this bike is a 4 stroke version of a 125 2 stroke. the wr is a pretty good compromise between a 125 and a 250 2 stroke. it pulls/torques decently on the low to mid rpm range. but nothing compared to a decent 2 stroke.ie you can't come up to a log and just blip the gas to wheelie over it like you can on a 2 stroke. but let me tell you when you get it up into those 5 didgit rpm's-the bike hauls ass in a very serious way. almost anyone can ride these bikes in the low rpm range-very few can keep themselves on top of a yzf 250 that is hard on the pipe/powerband. I ride a EC 300 gasgas,and I've owned 3 yz 490 2 strokes in the past, so I feel I know a little bit about brute horsepower. [/QUOTE]