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Message: [QUOTE="DougRoost, post: 1171372, member: 23019"] The other benefit of these newer bikes is the offroad versions usually have e-start, in addition to already having pumper carbs, better ignitions, etc. Plus the manufacturers have really focused on trying to lower the weight in the frame for better handling. A tall and dated air cooled motor would not be for everyone...as Rich pointed out adding displacement and lowering the revs will give the majority of people what they really want and much more economically. [/QUOTE]