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Message: [QUOTE="morgan, post: 1029430, member: 26803"] Thanks for the write up Jeramey---good stuff. Evidently Forest Certification is at the core of this whole issue. Man, just what we need---bigger government and more audits/hoops to jump through. Here is a cool article that gives some insight into the Forest Certification program: [url]http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10369_36152-125628--,00.html[/url] I've seen it all before when I was in the service: #1-and audit team comes in and identifies "problems". #2-everyone goes [I]way[/I] overboard trying to right the wrongs and cover their butts. #3-in the end the main mission of the unit is compromised because of this self sustaining bureaucracy. Too bad our livelihood got caught up in all of this. Gotta go, have tin foil hats to make. :) [/QUOTE]