Actor Heath Ledger Dead

[IndyMX]

According to a story on Foxnews.com right now, there were several different drugs found around him. Ambien was one.. I was prescribed that once, and was told to be very careful with it. Not to mix it with other things..

There were a few other drugs found around him, it's possible that he could have taken a combination that wasn't so good for his longevity. Or could have just taken too many of something that killed him. I'd imagine that a lot of Xanax would tend to make you not remember details like how many Ambien you've taken.

 

[truespode]

I'd imagine that a lot of Xanax would tend to make you not remember details like how many Ambien you've taken.

Ambien will have the same effect without inclusion of any other drugs or alcohol... although benzo's and alcohol can make things worse.

Ambien can cause a lot of issues on its own so until someone specifically points out that he committed suicide and can prove it was not accidental I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to it being an accident b/c I've personally witnessed the negative effects of Ambien.

I dated a girl who one night took Ambien but couldn't fall asleep so she took another.

She was up all night cleaning the house and the next morning she woke up late and told me she had to get busy b/c she had to clean the house.

I told her she already did but she didn't remember anything about it.

I read up on it and there are others who have even cooked while on Ambien and not remembered it.

Another guy woke up in the middle of the night once and went to the bathroom and found his wife in a full tub of water with the water running and her nose just above the water.

He called the paramedics and they got there and he heard one of them mentioning "obvious suicide attempt." Turned out she took too many Ambien's (she forgot how many she took) and got up to take a bath without realizing it and almost drowned.

There was no suicide attempt at all.

She stopped taking Ambien and never had any issues like that again.

Ivan

 

[bsmith]

It just infuriates me that everyday we have hero’s dying over sees and the only thing we here about is “their” war crimes, propagated by our enemy and broadcast by our media!
Then when a selfish celeb needs yet more attention they stop the press and broadcast on every channel “what a loss”. This week all the TV channels and airwaves will be talking about him, next week all the magazines will have him on the cover, yet men and women/fathers and mothers who are fighting a war very selflessly for them, their country, and their kids future and we can’t give them any “airtime”!

I have a wife with a disability, and she has been prescribed ambien, and I've seen the effects others have talked about here, so I'm sure he knew of the effects of an extra Ambien or mixing with other types. Include also he had 2 empty bottles and I'm taking the uneducated ignorant stance that he committed suicide by taking two many pills. Easy out!

With that, I'm not sad and I feel no remorse for a man that abandoned his son and in in six months another young star will take the spot light and he'll be remembered as yet another young star who took his life! Is Britany next when she comes to the realization she gave up her kids? Horrible excuse for a parent and people still facinated with her! If my wife treated our kids like that she'd be in Jail!

 

[SINGLETRAC]

Who said that was what happened?

From what I read he had sleeping issues and may have taken too many pills.

I don't think we need to jump to conclusions.

If it is ruled that it was a suicide THEN we can open the philosophical discussion as to why people who we think have it all do such things.

But until then, to assume the cause of death is unfair to him, his family and those that care about him.

Ivan

almost every intentional overdose i have seen has been textbook.subject in bed, pill bottles nearby....jumping to conclusions? yes. call it an educated opinion... sad regardless. :|

 

[truespode]

so I'm sure he knew of the effects of an extra Ambien or mixing with other types. Include also he had 2 empty bottles and I'm taking the uneducated ignorant stance that he committed suicide by taking two many pills. Easy out!

With that, I'm not sad and I feel no remorse for a man that abandoned his son and in in six months another young star will take the spot light and he'll be remembered as yet another young star who took his life! Is Britany next when she comes to the realization she gave up her kids? Horrible excuse for a parent and people still facinated with her! If my wife treated our kids like that she'd be in Jail!

That is a lot of generalizations and assumptions to make about someone you do not know.

Ivan

 

[bsmith]

Yes it is!

 

[truespode]

I agree with you on one point... our soldiers deserve more credit and are more newsworthy than any actor. Personally, I don't think an actor's death should be news b/c none of us know them and they don't make a difference in the world really. But people who assume the negative about a person they don't know simply b/c they are an actor are making the same mistake as those that worship someone they don't know simply b/c they are an actor.

What I know about Heath Ledger is nothing. Definitely not enough to voice that he did commit suicide or didn't. Not enough to know what his problems were or weren't. Not enough to know how his separation was affecting him or wasn't. Not enough to know how the custody battle of his child was going or wasn't.

I am not about to generalize and mock a person by calling them selfish attention whores when they have family that are traumatized by this event already.

I personally don't care that he is dead. I didn't know him so I feel no remorse. I do know a lot of people going through rough times and want to help them and spend time with them. They are good people. And I know that most people wouldn't treat some no-name stranger's death the same way that Ledger is being treated in his death, even if the death is under the same type of circumstances.

I hate to think what would be thought of me if I died and then my friends and parents had to read on DRN or wherever the opinions of people who have never met me.

People are people and deserve a little respect.

Even Britney and Lindsey who are obviously trainwrecks deserve some respect. Heath has never had anything negative written about him. Has always been said to be the type to avoid the limelight and was generous with his time and kindness (judging from what I have read about him today - prior to today I just knew he was in that Patriot movie). Yet there are those who don't know him but just lump him in with other celebrities b/c he died of a drug overdose. Whether by accident or not doesn't matter but it is obvious people are putting their own life descriptions on a person they never met and assigning character attributes to him that are contrary to what has been reported by countless sources.

The guy is dead and deserves some respect... at least the respect of not assuming who he was or wasn't unless we knew him.

He was an actor. He is dead. That is all there is to it in my opinion.

Ivan

 

[IndyMX]

Ya know, when I posted this thread, I had no idea it would spark such a conversation.

I saw a topical news story, and thought it worthy to pass along to others.

It is good to see the differing opinions that have been brought up here.

 

[SINGLETRAC]

it is opinions. im sure the media will get the accurate truth. :rotfl:

 

[truespode]

I'm just too philosophical on some days :)

I should have got my masters in that instead of business and management.

Ivan

 

[Mully]

Ivan ???

Are we suppose to be ignoring your posts still ???
I mean since your minor operation and all ???????????

XOXOXOXOXO
your pal,
Mully

 

[truespode]

Ivan ???

Are we suppose be ignoring your posts still ???
I mean since your minor operation and all ???????????

XOXOXOXOXO
your pal,
Mully

LOL!

Ignoring me is always a good recommendation :)

My minor surgery went well. I was almost off the pain pills after a couple days.

Then I got a viral infection and that knocked me out good for 4 days. I still have a bad sore throat and white spots on my uvula and tonsils but I'm back to work and trying to be normal.

I tell you though... I am not a fan of pain pills. They gave me Lorcet (I think) and it made me feel funny but my g/f made me stay on them for 3 days. I couldn't sleep, was all bouncy and then when I went off I was anxious and panicky. Then when the sore throat got really bad Saturday I tried taking one and had nightmares and I never have those.

But... I am almost all better now. I just need my throat to heal up completely and get a full nights sleep which I haven't had in over 9 days now.

Ivan

 

[SINGLETRAC]

LOL!

Ignoring me is always a good recommendation :)

My minor surgery went well. I was almost off the pain pills after a couple days.

Then I got a viral infection and that knocked me out good for 4 days. I still have a bad sore throat and white spots on my uvula and tonsils but I'm back to work and trying to be normal.

I tell you though... I am not a fan of pain pills. They gave me Lorcet (I think) and it made me feel funny but my g/f made me stay on them for 3 days. I couldn't sleep, was all bouncy and then when I went off I was anxious and panicky. Then when the sore throat got really bad Saturday I tried taking one and had nightmares and I never have those.

But... I am almost all better now. I just need my throat to heal up completely and get a full nights sleep which I haven't had in over 9 days now.

Ivan

have they still got you on antibiotics?? the throat is a breeding ground for a good yeast infection when taking antibiotics.

 

[truespode]

No... he had me stop the anti-biotics on Monday.

For a little while I thought it was a bad intubation. My throat hurt after surgery and then on Friday it really hurt and I had my g/f look at it. She is a Physicians Assistant and called her ex-h who is an Internist. He said it was either a viral infection or a bad intubation which he had when he had surgery on his neck.

He was just going by what we were telling him but I was convinced it was a bad intubation. I was happy to be wrong.

Ivan

 

[SINGLETRAC]

ya cant beat the good old fashioned salt water and peroxide gargle... glad your feeling better.

 

[IndyMX]

Ivan, I for one love reading your posts...


They give me a good laugh!!

 

[truespode]

Ivan, I for one love reading your posts...


They give me a good laugh!!

I'm a funny guy... but looks aren't everything.

Ivan

 

[IndyMX]

You're tellin me!

 

[Patman]

Wow this one went so far off track it crossed the Internation Dateline.... a few times.

 

[IndyMX]

Wow this one went so far off track it crossed the Internation Dateline.... a few times.

Pretty typical for this place..

 

[truespode]

I call it thread drift :)

Ivan

 

[lestat357]

lmao when brokeback mountain came out on video i rented it cause i thought it was a cowboy movie so me and my gf were watching it together and then they started messing around and i was like holys*** turn it off lmao anyways i thought he was an awesome actor and couldnt believe he passed

 

[MrLuckey]

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000 other people also died in the US on the same day.

 

[BadgerMan]

Happen to see this was released today......

NEW YORK (AP) -- Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs that included painkillers, sleeping pills and anti-anxiety medication, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.

The cause of death was "acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine," :ohmy: spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said in a statement.

The drugs are the generic names for the painkiller OxyContin, the anti-anxiety drugs Valium and Xanax, and the sleep aids Restoril and Unisom. Hydrocodone is a widely used prescription painkiller.

Borakove wouldn't say what concentrations of each drug were found in Ledger's blood, or whether one drug played a greater part than another in causing his death.

"What you're looking at here is the cumulative effects of these medications together," she said.

 

[Patman]

Geez and my wife is worried about an hour overlap of doeses of Dayquil and Nighquil.