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Message: [QUOTE="ellandoh, post: 1389094, member: 55695"] possibly solved, will know tomorrow when i get back at it. but i have found out the hard way that when the belt is off the camshaft is under tension from the valve springs and can move [B]WHILE YOUR NOT LOOKING[/B]. My problem now is I found the timing marks and markers for the oil pump and crankshaft but the camshaft only has a little dimple in it that may or may not be what i consider a timing mark and I can find NOTHING that resembles a marker to line it up with. My only guess is it is supposed to be pointed due north but that is risky to forego with a guess as this is an interference motor [/QUOTE]