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Message: [QUOTE="Hart89, post: 991791, member: 63986"] About a week ago I was riding my TS185 around the house just playing round and all of a sudden I couldn't shift down to first. :ahhh: First was still there but would go into a false neutral. And then it started happening to second on occasions. To get it into gear once it hit this false neutral I had to shift back up and then have another go at it. I kept on riding it round playing round and then I lost all gears. I've split the cases but can’t see any noticeable damage to the shifting forks. What should I be looking for? What gets me is that I could shift up no troubles. Why was it only shifting down that was the problem? This may fuel the great debate of whether to use the clutch to shift gears. But I use the clutch when I shift down so what’s the go with that. Can someone give me a wear limit on the shifters? Does this deserve to be in the vintage forum? :blah: [/QUOTE]