Changeing tire help?

[flight]

Newbie on the prowl here.

I got a flat tire the other day. So i got a new tube and durning the install i poped the new one. The old one has a Small hole in it can it be patched? the new one is shot to hell. Is there any tire changing articles out there i can't find one. Anypoiters here will help. I tried to do it with two tire irons. Should i get a spoon and try again Money is short so i can't take it to the shop anytime soon.

 

[Vytas]

I use irons and spray the tube with soapy water and then spray the tire bead with it as well.  I try to leave a little air in the tube so that it is harder to pinch.  When the tire is finally on I use the air compressor to overfill the tire to get the bead to seat itself.  The soapy water also helps with the bead seating.

 

[jmics19067]

I prefer to use a spoon but the first thing you should do is inspect your irons for a sharp edge. I lock em up in a vise and run a piece of emory cloth over the working ends<handles too if they look uncomfortable>. take small bites of the tire with irons making sure you are not sticking the iron in too far and catching the tube. If you have the tire lubed up with liquid soap and beads dropped into the center of the rim you shouldn't have to "PRY" the tire on only gentle persuasion. If it seems you are using a lot of force stop and look at everything to see where you can get a little more give out of the tire.

if the hole isn't too big tubes can be patched

 

[Luft]

Put the tire in sunlight if its available to warm the tire and make it more flexible. A hot air dryer may be of benefit too. Some people us WD40 on the bead. Coat the tube with baby powder so it doesn't stick inside the tire. When you first inflate the tire do it slowly and watch how the bead seats into the rim. I usually let the air out after the bead is seated and then air again to make sure everything is right.

 

[mx547]

don't give up. after you do it a few times, it gets much easier. it just takes a little practice.

 

[bclapham]

these new maxxis tires are suppsed to be real nasty to put on. i havent done a tire in 5 years, i sat the hot air gun inside the tire and got it real warm all over. bit of soap and it went on no problems

 

[jmics19067]

Originally posted by mx547
don't give up. after you do it a few times, it gets much easier. it just takes a little practice.

although all of the ideas are great this one is probably the best advice .

you will eventually will figure out what way works easiest for you whether soap, wd 40, spoons , irons, rimlock first, rim lock last, or air in the tube etc etc .... Just whatever you do if you found out you just put on a tire real easy remember what you did !!!!!

 

[Lespaul20]

I put a maxxis, not sure if was harder than any other tire, but it wasn't easy, I also pinched the tubed putting it on. One tip, go slow. And use soapy water, WD-40 isn't really good on rubber. Good Luck.

 

[Fark]

I use these two moose spoons. They have a comfy handle and are about 10" long, they were like 15 bucks. Work great but they still have potential to pinch a tube. My advice: try to stick it only far enough to catch the bead.

 

[Dirtvet]

Three long tire irons, WD 40 a cardboard are all you really need. Be sure to take off the disk and the sprocket (if applicable). Offroad.com has a nice article on changing tires that helped me through the process the first time. It gets easier and faster each time now.

 

[pyromaniac]

I dont understand why you would buy a new tube because of a flat? Have the tube exploded or why cant you just repair the hole?

After you have changed the tire a few times it will get easier. First time i changed a tire it took like all day and i thought i would crack the rim. Also the first times i often left a puncture or two in the tube so i had to take apart the tire once it was mounted! Now after changing tire maybe 30 times the last two winters it take maybe 10 min to change tire and no flats or hurted hands.

 

[23jayhawk]

Some tips from the Fredette video that helped me:

• put the tube in the tire before&nbsp; mounting on the rim
• put enough air in the tube so that it takes some form
• start with the rim lock and valve stem side, just a couple threads to hold in place
• push the tire on for the first side, maybe need to use a bit of tire iron about halfway around or so
• once you have the first side on, begin pulling the second&nbsp;side bead on 180 degrees opposite the valve stem
• as you progress with the second bead, keep the tire&nbsp;deep into the 'drop center' of the rim - gives you the slack you need to pull the last bid of tire over the rim
• use the straight end of the tire iron to&nbsp;install the bead, not the curved end&nbsp;
• don't lever the tire iron past 90 degrees - that is when you can pinch the tube between the iron and the rim edge
• work both directions from the starting point, and when you get to the valve stem section, work carefully to slide the heavy section of the tube up into the tire as you pull the bead over

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[Someone]

If you have to overfill the tire, what is considered too much pressure? I am having a helluva time (first timer) getting the bead to set on my front rim. I have soapy water all over the bead on both sides, but even with close to 50psi, the tire is not setting all the way around. 5 minute job my ass! :)

 

[Ryone]

There is a good article in transworldmx(dot)com about easy tire changing. It's only 2 or 3 weeks old.

Just changing the tube is easy, you only need to get one bead off the rim. Changing the tire completely is a whole other story, but here are a few pointers:

- use 3 tire irons
- don't take the tube out before you take the tire off
- take each bead off of EACH side (not the same side) so that the rim and tube are both INSIDE the tire.
- after doing this, just pry the tire and tube off of the rim with your hands. It's actually pretty easy
- inflate the tube so it takes shape
- use baby powder inside the tire, and soapy water (I like to use it in a spray bottle) for the beads
- take small "bites" instead of big ones. Having an extra hand makes everything a lot easier
- make sure to get the boot between the tube and the beads
- secure the boot stem and valve stem with nuts so they don't fall through while your putting the last bead on

 

[Someone]

Please disregard my last post. I deflated the tire completely, used more soap this time, and inflated the tire to about 55lbs (crazy high pressure I know), but the beads FINALLY set. I set the pressure for muddy conditions and am letting it sit for an hour or so to make sure I didn't pinch the tube before putting back on the bike.

Wow, I saved $15 at 1 hour time, so I lost on the deal, but it was a good learning experience. Next task is the rear tire and shift shaft. ;)

 

[Ryone]

That's too much air pressure to use to get the beads to seat. They'll seat with under 20 pounds if you just have sense enough to put pressure on the tire while rolling it, or bounce it off of the ground while rotating it. I've left my beads a little "off" (not off the rim but unbalanced around the rim) and then took a lap around the neighborhood and they worked themselves around the tire perfectly.

 

[Someone]

Thanks for the info. I tried smushing the tire around while inflating, but the bead just wouldn't seal. I think my crappy 12v compressor I use for my quad just doesn't inflate fast enough, thus not sealing the bead easily. Tire is still holding air and on the bike. I will ride it this weekend in the Natl forest and see how she does.

 

[JasonWho]

Thanks for the tips! especially:

use the straight end of the tire iron to install the bead, not the curved end
and spray soapy water - I had been using straight Dawn

I have found:
leave it in the sun for a while and
use three tire irons to be a great help

Also, the pull both tire sides outward, then pull the wheel out sounds odd, but works well

 

[darringer]

I've tried all different types of lube for the tire. But I keep going back to Windex. Not only is it slippery. But it evaporates in a few minutes with no soapy residue on the tire and rim. Also, make sure there is just enough air in the tube to make it round before seating the bead on the rim.

 

[chillrich]

Here are a couple of links I found helpful.

http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/how_to/article/0,13190,656321,00.html

http://www.motocross.com/s/admin/pageserver/storyserver.asp?a=showpage&id=1659

Baby powder, WD40, Sun, 2 irons and be careful of that tube(80/100/21 heavy duty cost me 42 CAD).

 

[YZ165]

You guy's forgot the single most imporntant tip for easy tire changing. Take the wheel and a six-pack down to the local indapendant just before closing. Talk about easy! It works too!

 

[Chili]

be careful of that tube(80/100/21 heavy duty cost me 42 CAD).

You got robbed.

Maxxis HD Tube MSRP $8.85
Maxxis Extra HD MSRP $10.40
Michelin HD $19.95

All prices Suggested retail in CDN $. I'd be talking to my dealer about that $42 tube :|

 

[OnAnySunday]

these new maxxis tires are suppsed to be real nasty to put on.

.................yea. :bang:

 

[OnAnySunday]

You guy's forgot the single most imporntant tip for easy tire changing. Take the wheel and a six-pack down to the local indapendant just before closing. Talk about easy! It works too!

.................................................yea!! :bang: