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yes, sorry I came across like you said that.Okiewan said:
I know your beef -- the "overconfidence" (for lack of a better term) in an unproven product. I, like you (I think), hope it all works out for the best.
David Bailey brace video
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I know your beef -- the "overconfidence" (for lack of a better term) in an unproven product. I, like you (I think), hope it all works out for the best.
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?...symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&selected=leat
Leatt stock up 18.4% Friday.
Leatt stock up 18.4% Friday.
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the devil's advocate in me wants to look at Bailey's investment portfolio ;)Okiewan said:
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Windahm and Grant both wore the brace in San Diego.
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Reed is going to try one this week during practice.
From RacerX interview:
What about the Leatt Brace?
Everyone’s talking about them.
I haven’t tried it yet. I’m having one sent to Florida. We’ll try it this week. It’s something you need to try and see if it’s good and if you can race with it. I believe in it, I really do. If I had a kid, I would want my kid to wear it. If I’m preaching it, then I need to be a good preacher and do it too. I heard something this week that I said I wasn’t going to try it for the rest of supercross, and that’s not true. I never said that.
From RacerX interview:
What about the Leatt Brace?
Everyone’s talking about them.
I haven’t tried it yet. I’m having one sent to Florida. We’ll try it this week. It’s something you need to try and see if it’s good and if you can race with it. I believe in it, I really do. If I had a kid, I would want my kid to wear it. If I’m preaching it, then I need to be a good preacher and do it too. I heard something this week that I said I wasn’t going to try it for the rest of supercross, and that’s not true. I never said that.
Doc Bodnar's response .... This is what I was talking about when I said not to proclaim the device a savior too quickly. It's like there's a hge push to make it mandatory in the AMA, before there's any real world experience with it.
http://www.racerxvt.com/virtual_trainer/TFS_Doc_Bodnar.html
http://www.racerxvt.com/virtual_trainer/TFS_Doc_Bodnar.html
rickyd
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Pretty interesting what Doc has to say right here:
"So as far as making a Leatt Brace mandatory, do you anticipate acceptance on some timeline?
Doc's response: Like I said, what I have seen so far is that it will be an excellent device. It's going to save a lot of people injuries that could have received without it. It's going to take a year or two of looking at it to make sure there is no downsides that show up. If we start seeing no one that uses one gets injured and the guys not using them are, then you will see us pushing to make in mandatory in a year or two."
I like how he says something about changing the foam in dirt helmets.
Off topic but awhile back I started riding w/out a hard chest protector. Due to all this I started wearing it again, w/my PCS neck roll.
"So as far as making a Leatt Brace mandatory, do you anticipate acceptance on some timeline?
Doc's response: Like I said, what I have seen so far is that it will be an excellent device. It's going to save a lot of people injuries that could have received without it. It's going to take a year or two of looking at it to make sure there is no downsides that show up. If we start seeing no one that uses one gets injured and the guys not using them are, then you will see us pushing to make in mandatory in a year or two."
I like how he says something about changing the foam in dirt helmets.
Off topic but awhile back I started riding w/out a hard chest protector. Due to all this I started wearing it again, w/my PCS neck roll.
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One thing for sure, that 'year or two' of looking at it will give Asterisk plenty of time to make one that Doc could endorse.
anyone own one?
I sure would like to hear from anyone who owns one, as I have one major concern with the design of this brace. Im not trying to put this product down, I just want an assurance it may not actually be dangerous to wear. It appears to me that the brace can actually slip under the edge of your helmet on the left and right sides, if it does and continued pressure is put on the side of the helmet wont the brace effectively become a fulcrum around which your neck will be bent??? Look a k-dub in post 83, it appears as though his helmet may already be over the left hand side of this brace just going around a corner, now what would happen if he were recieve a pushing force from the right side of his helmet, would not that rigid bar become a fulcrum to the neck?
Ok with that said, I love the front back protection design, and I have cash in hand and Im itching to purchase this thing, but I really would like some more data on these side impacts.....Could anyone who owns one post a photo proving the helmet cant slip over the side of the brace? Thanks!
I sure would like to hear from anyone who owns one, as I have one major concern with the design of this brace. Im not trying to put this product down, I just want an assurance it may not actually be dangerous to wear. It appears to me that the brace can actually slip under the edge of your helmet on the left and right sides, if it does and continued pressure is put on the side of the helmet wont the brace effectively become a fulcrum around which your neck will be bent??? Look a k-dub in post 83, it appears as though his helmet may already be over the left hand side of this brace just going around a corner, now what would happen if he were recieve a pushing force from the right side of his helmet, would not that rigid bar become a fulcrum to the neck?
Ok with that said, I love the front back protection design, and I have cash in hand and Im itching to purchase this thing, but I really would like some more data on these side impacts.....Could anyone who owns one post a photo proving the helmet cant slip over the side of the brace? Thanks!
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biglou
I've heard that concern before also. I don't have one, but I'm looking. As for making it a fulcrum, it makes your lever (neck) much shorter if the fulcrum is at the bottom of the helmet as opposed to the bottom of your neck. However, I believe they state emphatically that it protects for overextension in all directions.
Check the product review forum, there is at least one thread in there form some who have purchased one of these.
Check the product review forum, there is at least one thread in there form some who have purchased one of these.
Chili, thats the correct idea, my concern is a crash that pushes the riders head from the side toward the shoulder and possibly pushes the neck into the side of the brace, without having one of these things in hand Im not sure that could happen but that photo of kevin (post 83)looks suspect already and thats just normal forces....
and biglou you make a good point, I just want to be sure this is not a solid object around which my neck may be leveraged in an extreme side impact. My cash is still in hand, though as I am often completely and thouroughly wrong in my initial opinion of a product.
and biglou you make a good point, I just want to be sure this is not a solid object around which my neck may be leveraged in an extreme side impact. My cash is still in hand, though as I am often completely and thouroughly wrong in my initial opinion of a product.
+30 please excuse the poor photos but I was in a rush as my model was more interested in his Mx vs ATV Unleashed match than posing for extended attempts to get what I was after artistically :laugh:
Here is a head on shot so you get an idea of the overlap on the sides.
Here is the right side of the rider (camera left) with is head cocked as hard as he could to his right.
and the opposite side also cocked as hard as he could.
For arguments sake I took hold of his helmet chin bar in one hand and attempted to pull it over the edge of the brace while pushing the brace into his neck with the other hand. I was able to just get the edge of the helmet over the lip of the brace but it took considerable force, and we did not have the strap that helps keep the brace in place around his chest which likely allowed it to move further than it would when properly secured. It was around this time he figured he'd had enough modelling. go figure :laugh:
Hope this was of some help.
Here is a head on shot so you get an idea of the overlap on the sides.
Here is the right side of the rider (camera left) with is head cocked as hard as he could to his right.
and the opposite side also cocked as hard as he could.
For arguments sake I took hold of his helmet chin bar in one hand and attempted to pull it over the edge of the brace while pushing the brace into his neck with the other hand. I was able to just get the edge of the helmet over the lip of the brace but it took considerable force, and we did not have the strap that helps keep the brace in place around his chest which likely allowed it to move further than it would when properly secured. It was around this time he figured he'd had enough modelling. go figure :laugh:
Hope this was of some help.
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"Jeez, Dad! Couldja hurry up already, eh?!"Chili said:
We ordered ours directly off the leatt site prior to the Bailey video being made ( http://www.leatt-brace.com ) It's my understanding they are running a significant delay right now due to demand.
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Villapoto showed up at a track here in NorCal wearing a Leatt, and supposedly on a 450....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8438445330048304913
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8438445330048304913
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