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Message: [QUOTE="kiwijohn, post: 1163158, member: 57792"] Gidday people - most of the sound issues come from the expansion chamber so the nuffler is probably the least effective place to reduce noise. Check out a KDX - extra thick chamber and nice and quiet. I had an FMF fatty on my previous RM250 and that was LOUD. Some of the factory pipes are actually not too bad for noise, but you can always go quieter :nod: I actually think a wrap around protector like an Eline or that fibreglass one would give some protection and quieten it down too. Then go for a Q or a turbinecore muffler and you're lookin good. Probably not practical but a wrapped exhaust would be quiet! Not very shiny though...... :laugh: [/QUOTE]