Thank for the info, The problem is i got him started a little late on a bike, he has only been riding on and off for about a year minus the four months of winter we had! He did a few harescrambles this year but the pw50 really was no match for the terain, so basically i wanted to get him something with alot more suspention and power and mabye get 2yrs. out of it. By then he should be ready for a full fledged motocrosser. The klx110 has the honda beat in alot of areas like suspention and power output. I have heard honda is reliable but i havn't heard anything bad about the klx110 motor. I found a guy that's selling an 02klx110 which he bought only a few months ago. He wants $1400, for that price i'll give it a shot...... Thanks for all the help....................