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Message: [QUOTE="EngIceDave, post: 395730, member: 25519"] It's amazing how many times I have read ALL of that information on different sites and how so many people who've never used it say it doesn't work...It's actually very funny. They've never tried it, but they're sure it doesn't work. In regards to the one gentleman and his plug color, I have had some reports of a need to re-jet after changing to Engine Ice...not always, but once in awhile. A re-jetting would have solved your issue on the plug. The coolant may have been warmer longer because it was drawing out more heat from the motor. Hate dragging up a thread that's a month old, let's just say that in some areas they're correct and in many they're not. The tests of EG vs. PG they quote is in distilled water, not Di water. It also doesn't consider some additives that are in Engine Ice...so those tests they're quoting are inaccurate. It's amazing to me how we can get letter after letter and phone call after phone call from people who've tried it and say it works. We've had test results and positive feedback from top motorcycle road race teams and riders, top motorcycle off-road teams and riders, NASCAR teams, ASA auto race teams, Hooters Pro Cup auto race teams and ARCA auto race teams all tell us how well it works....and you know what? We don't pay ANY OF THEM to use it...NONE...They use it because it works...but wait! It doesn't work, right? These folks are using it and saying it works just for the heck of it. Somehow, we've been able to brainwash and convince all of these people that it works... This is a sample of our sponsored riders…Riders using Engine Ice have won over 250 National Championships. We prove it works, we prove it on the track and we prove it with championships…You can’t tell me that Yamaha Motor Corp. is going to let Yamaha of Troy use it if it didn’t work, especially in the YZ250F last year, during it’s debut year…Or American Suzuki telling it’s Amateur team riders like Millsaps, Hepler, Goerke, Kiniry, Johnson and more use it if didn’t work, James Stewart uses it….Want his Dad’s phone number to call and ask him if it works?? Our 2001 AMA Loretta Lynn's Amateur National Motocross Champions – 14 total championships James Stewart, Jr. Ricky Renner Joshua Hansen Leah Cantrell Gavin Gracyk Shawn Skinner Broc Hepler Michael Blose Sean Hackley, Jr. Jason Lawrence Stefy Bau Yamaha of Troy Chad Reed - 2002 EA Sports/AMA 125 East Supercross Champion (Using Engine Ice) Rodrig Thain Greg Schnell Ivan Tedesco and 2001 EA Sports/AMA 125cc West Supercross Champion, Ernesto Fonseca (Using Engine Ice) "When the competition heats up, the Yamaha of Troy Race Team relies on Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant to keep our engines cool for maximum performance and reliability." - Eric Kehoe, Team Manager, Yamaha of Troy Racing (2001) Recommended by the American Suzuki Amateur Motocross Team Some of our Great Sponsored Racers: Motocross Davi Milsaps Matt Goerke Bryan Johnson Jr. Dean Dyess III Colten Maynard Ricky Renner Dan Truman Tyson Hadsell Forrest, Karsten & Brandon Butler Jacob Saylor Joshua Hansen Gavin Gracyk Malcolm Stewart Clark Stiles Troy Adams Shelley Kann Aaron Dieter Kyle Keylon Eddie Ray Mark Wundrack Jeremy Riesenberg Ashley Wheat Rodney Cavender Donnie McGourty Jessie Casillias Sarah Whitmore Ryan Mills Jimmy Wilson Auto Racing Robert Huffman – Four-Time NASCAR Goodys Dash Series Champion Kevin Cywinski – Former ASA Champion and Rookie of the Year Mike Cope – Former Multi-divisional Champion Dan Frederickson - 2001 ReMax Challenge Series Rookie of the Year LaFavre Racing – Premier two car ASA Racing team Shane Wallace - RoY contender in Hooters ProCup South Series Motorcycle Road Racing Marco Martinez – 2001 Southeastern CCS Expert Champion, 2001 CCS National Champion -Exp. Heavyweight Superbike Shane Prieto – 2000 Southeastern CCS Expert Champion Darren Luck - 2001 CCS National Champion (3 classes) -Amateur GTU, Amateur Middleweight Superbike, Amateur Heavyweight Superbike Pedro Valiente - 2001 CCS National Champion - Expert Middleweight Superbike Donald A Pepin Sr. - 2001 Southeastern CCS Expert Champion - Amateur Formula 40 Johno Bowman Ralph Fernandez Pat Weekley Rick Narup Greg Esser Test Report from Mike Cope Racing Introduction: On March 24, 2002 the American Speed Association season opener was run at the 3/4-mile oval USA International Speedway in Lakeland, Florida. This was the first time Engine Ice coolant was used in a Mike Cope racing vehicle. Test Parameters: The engine was a GM Voretc ASA 5.7 liter V-8. This engine is a slightly modified version of the stock Corvette LS-1 motor. The cooling system holds 1.3 gallons and non-diluted Engine Ice was used. The temperature of ambient air at Lakeland on test day was averaging 85oF. Track temperature was 105°F at 1:30PM. The weather consisted of strong sun with increased cloud cover towards late afternoon. A baseline temperature of 200ºF was used as a comparison coolant temperature based on a previous test conducted two weeks prior with an ambient temperature of 75ºF. The test was conducted during practice, qualifying and the race. Feedback: Engine Ice immediately reduced coolant temperature to 185ºF during the first outing. This was a 15ºF reduction from the baseline coolant temperature. With the success of the product it was determined that a full taped configuration could be utilized during qualifying. ALL airflow to the radiator was blocked off to allow for more downforce. In 3 laps (2.25 miles), the coolant temperature only reached 205ºF. During the race, the radiator was allowed minimal airflow and the temperature the entire day of the 200-lap race remained at 200ºF. Conclusion: Engine Ice proved to be an effective performance enhancement on the #25 Florida Auto Auction car. The reduction in coolant temperature was noticeable from the first run and continued consistently throughout the two-day test. The results obtained in qualifying with airflow completely blocked and during the race in heavy traffic were exceptional. Engine Ice will be utilized by Mike Cope Racing for the rest of the season to give us the performance advantage over our competition. Report Prepared By: Cameron Kerr Race Engineer Mike Cope Racing Smoke and mirrors....smoke and mirrors..... [/QUOTE]

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