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Message: [QUOTE="kawi72, post: 34163, member: 18569"] Thanks everyone for the input. While riding I have started to tell myself to relax and it works while I am thinking about it but once I stop, back to death grip. Just need to work on it more I guess. I have been working on gripping with my legs, no problem when crouched down or sitting but it feels "awkward" when standing, has anyone else notcied that? It feels weird to grip with your knees when standing up in a fast straight away. I will keep working on it. I don;t know how they can ride race pace for 30 minutes plus two. ------------------ Kawi72 99 KX250 [/QUOTE]