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I have been in that same position a few times myself Ivan. Luckily there were no cameras around ;)
Originally posted by nephron
Coxsackie and Echovirus have been going around here. This is an enterovirus, that causes CNS (brain disturbance/headaches), herpangina (blisters @ the posterior oropharyx/pharyngitis--which you could have had), gastroenteritis (diarrhea, nausea, GERD--gastroesophageal reflux--vomiting, sometimes rash, polyarthritis, and certainly myositis (inflammation of muscles )--particularly backpain and spasms. As regards the latter, these viruses can affect the myocardium (heart), cause heart failure (sometimes resulting in transplant), and affect conduction, causing rthythm disturbances, such as your sinus bradycardia or heartblock.
If ANY of you think that drugs will make you feel better talk to your FAMILY doc first and make sure your family doc is one you can TRUST
Originally posted by nephron
Yet I am certain it was not a drug reaction, based on diffuse symptoms plus, most importantly, the length of time that the illness had occured.
1) Wellbutrin would wash out in 4-5 halflifes, which at most would be 3 days
2) Drug reactions are either anaphylactic or arthus (TypeIII), occur very early in the course of taking the medicine (former within 30 minutes, latter within 3 days).
Originally posted by nephron
That is not good advice, and would be similar to a patient preferring to go to their family doctor for renal failure, instead of a nephrologist. A totally ridiculous idea.
Originally posted by jaction125
I also think all the chiropractors and phsychiatrists should be sent to the ocean floor.
Originally posted by nephron
I guess a lot of people these days just 'dislike' and 'distrust' doctors, for whatever reason. Pill pushers, huh?................
Originally posted by nephron
(How's that for a copout)
Originally posted by nephron
Although drugs, like Wellbutrin, can magnify symptoms already present from other etiologies Ivan, I'm not sure catalyst is the appropriate term.
As regards etiol. in this specific case (caveat: I wasn't there and it's virtually impossible to diagnose anything over the phone/internet without a thorough history and physical),
I'd best guess it to be the virus(es) above, and you may have a little IBS underlying it all (Irritable Bowel Syndrome).
Please understand I'm not trying to bust your balls here.
I'm sure there was something seriously wrong--just a little unusual, and probably VERY difficult to figure out. Many doctors will not take the time to truely sort these things out.
You could get 'convalescent' Echo & Coxsackie virus serologies (also termed enterovirus panel). IgG should be showing up by now.
Did you have fever? Don't have to, but would more likely support infection than an odd sort of drug reaction.
Originally posted by nephron
someone here has a wife that's an ER physician...I'll say no more about that. I get clearly angry with them frequently. I'm sorry to the person who's wife is an ER doc...she's probably one of the good ones if she's with YOU. :) (How's that for a copout)
Originally posted by nephron
I'm about as cynical as you are, and always REQUIRE excellent data before I'll use a drug.
Originally posted by nephron
You probably should have had a fever, though.... :think:
like hypothyroidism (with myxedema) and Salmonella Typhimurium. Have they checked a TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone--high means hypOthyroidism, low typically means hypEr)--some of these viruses can cause an acute granulomatous or lymphocytic thyroiditis that's referred to as DeQuervan's disease.
Originally posted by nephron
Those symptoms are too diffuse to be secondary to Wellbutrin. About 1% of people starting that drug can have a seizure within the first week. Otherwise, it's well tolerated.
One time I even just ripped off my favorite shirt b/c I got some bad news (and it wasn't really that bad of news).