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The Fel-pro gaskets are a nice upgrade, and do PROLONG the next impending failure. At least the oil in the coolant bit. This is what most people notice, as the oil coats the coolant level sensor and gives a false low coolant warning. They almost double the service life, but the main problem is that there is not enough pressure at the bottom where the intake manifold meets the block. You know, the area where GM has you use half a tube of RTV. :coocoo: The rubber that is bonded to the plastic/metal form gets pushed/sucked in/out in the lower corners. I think a tighter fit there would alleviate the problem almost entirely.Shagy100 said:
Toyota/Honda have VASTLY superior suspension component life as well. They will be seen regularly with 100k+ on factory tie rod ends and ball joints. If seen probly a dozen F150s/Crown Victorias with tie rod ends seperating with less than 100k on them. Lets not get in into the wheel bearings with built in ABS. You'll see these on the majority of American cars. They fail regularly, sometimes within 50k miles. Price for a factory replacement can be 600 dollars or more FOR JUST THE BEARING. :coocoo: Or you can buy a chinese A/M replacement for 350 and have it last 10k miles. Our customers are faced with problems like this daily. Problems that are very expensive to fix, all becuase some engineer doesn't think the consumer or repair guys know anything. And the UAW gives him a raise. :rotfl: I wonder why people buy Asian cars?
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All of us armchair auto critics ought to get together and form our own american automobile company. We'd get paid decent, but not too decent, we'd make cars that last a million miles and never need servicing, they'd look as pretty as a Harley Davidson, and play Bruce Springsteen each time the customer turns the ignition key.
15 years ago, I was working as a union carpenter out of Illinois. I was making around 23 dollars an hour. The laborers were making around 18. Regardless, it still took 60 to 70 dollars an hour to put either one on the job, even back then? Where did the rest go? Taxes and healthcare. The biggest thing I see with the unions, they sign people up, but are not to concered about keeping them working. The uaw was and is still on par with a non-trade position. Detroit's cars are not moving out of the lots. Japans are not doing much better! Keep listening to the idiot box, the simpons is responsible for American lifesyle.
:) Politic's Media thats the problem. When the auto exec's flew to wash in there jets the media cried to hi heaven in outrage. But when they drove and said they would work for a buck a year and no bonus what did we hear nodda. When all along Ron G. UAW chief flew gave zero concessions and pointed at every one else and the media said nothing. That said americans are the most productive people in the world and envied by everyone. DRILL HERE DRILL NOW. P.S. Nice thread AZZHOLE now everyone knows why the name fits.
BadgerMan
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Shagy100 said:
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TMMK (the "Camry plant") is far from closed. They just launched production of a fourth vehicle in November. Toyota Motor Manufacturing Kentucky is Toyota's largest facility outside of Japan and it employs almost 7000 American workers.
Oh, and don’t try and tell me that it is a sweat shop either as I have spent more time in that facility than I care to recall. It is a state of the art factory and an excellent well paying place to work.
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Benefits is the key there, bud. Sure, the dollars on the paycheck say $27/hr. But what about insurance, retirement, health insurance for life . . . etc. There is the rub.Shagy100 said:
Don't think me a big 3 hater. I'll own nothing but a GM product. It's in my blood and always will be. I know how they work and know how to fix 'em. I've always felt my rigs were high quality, no real issues other than general maintenance.
BUT -- When an auto maker is beholden to a union who has a 22 lb, 2217 page contract with them you can understand why the rest of us mouth breathers out here in the general public think things might be a little bloated.
are you seriouse :yikes: If gm frod and chrysler dont get this bail out your economy is gonna go in the $hitter so fast you will be in the next great depression becaus 1 in 3 jobs is tied to GM that means that at least 33% of americans will be out of a job so think before you say a bailout is wrongjsantapau said:
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DW has regained the title of "Maytag". Nice job.
I recently changed jobs and was shocked at the difference in the cost of the benefits. The provider is the same, but the cost to the employee is considerably less. Did I forget to mention that 45% of the employees are members of the UAW?
I recently changed jobs and was shocked at the difference in the cost of the benefits. The provider is the same, but the cost to the employee is considerably less. Did I forget to mention that 45% of the employees are members of the UAW?
Shagy100 said:
so what is the answer? Print more money so the value of the dollar tanks and nobody can afford anything because bread will be 20$ a loaf? people will lose jobs because nobody will afford what is being sold
Push it on the taxpayers so the government will have more of our money not letting anyone have enough cash to buy something which in turn will jeapordize those same jobs only at a later date.Possibly bankrupting our government making it open to foriegn investors not unlike what the auto industry and oil companies have done to it already.
which way do you want to go socialistic or fascist since one looks like turn of the 20th century Russia and the other looks like post world war 1 Germany
If the big 3 fold are you going to quit driving. Are you going to walk becuase you can't find a ford anymore? Chances are if they go under, Honda or Toyota or SOMEONE will take over the production facilities. Americans need cars, if the big 3 aren't making them, someone else will. I say let 'em go. As they fizzle out the economy will suffer, which IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY. We're in for rough times, no matter what happens to the big 3. If you feel the need to bail them out, go spend YOUR money on a new car. You'll be paying for it in the long run anyway if they do get bailed out.
your a geiuse lets make it worse than it already is gonna be i hope you dont wind up runnin the country at some point. If they go our country is gonna fall i will never buy a forieng car and id buy an american built motocross bike but every time they started to get good they went outta buisness_JOE_ said:
P.S. to the gentalmen about about the engineers getting paid by th uaw the engineers are paid salary and always have been so the dont have anything to do with the UAW the dont have the benifits or salary protection so get ur facts staright before you open that thing under your nose for the uneducated its your mouth
About a month ago the Fed gave three big investment banks 125 billion. These corporations employ a little over 10,000 peaple. They will pay a little under $200,000 per employee in bonuses this year. That adds up to 20 billion in taxpayer financed bonuses. The big three asked for less than 3.5% of the trillion dollar financial bailout thus far. Congress would not approve even 15 billion to save three million working stiffs. It must be that bankers who get $200,000 bonuses are better campain contributors than the guys who make cars and car parts.
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I'm not saying that was a good idea either. There are several CEO types that need to be strung up by their naughty parts over this whole deal.Pushin50 said:
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Shagy100 said:
then why dont you buy an american mx bike? not good? so you buy a foreign one right? american car isnt good? you buy a foreign one right?
PS why dont you buy an american mx bike....for those uneducated its called an ATK
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To all concerned, I’m very sorry – But I just spit my "almost delicious" protein shake all over the damn monitor falling outa my damn chair :laugh: :rotfl:IndyMX said:
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IMHO, the unions have taught the American union worker to do the least amount of work for the most amount of money.
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