Tearring up the land huh? well I dont race quads nore do i ride them, but I do race the GNCC's, and the quads have just as much right as us bikers. And about tearing up the land, the Coombs family (they run the GNCC's) plants new grass, and does all they can to repair the land after a race. Actually in a mudd race id have to say that the bikes make more of a mess. Any way, why would you talk bad about bikes or quads, were all figting for the same thing, keeping ridding ares open, so we can RIDE......and if riders are talking bad, then it makes it that much easier for places to get shut down.