Good news I argued with the dnr today! Did you know the dnr maps don't distinguish between atv and cycle trails? Well neither did they.
It started out innocently enough when I stopped by the local dnr office to get a state park sticker. I asked the lady behind the counter if she knew why the maps weren't marked to distinguish between atv and cycle trails. She didn't know anything about orv trail maps. But she knew who did and gave me my state park sticker with a sticky note on the back with a name and phone number of the guy who would. So I called and left him a message.
Steve from the Lansing office called me at 10:45 this morning and I explained my question to him. He insisted I was wrong and told me he was looking at the maps online as we were speaking. I pointed out maps that had both atv and cycle trails on the same map with no way to disern the difference. I explained that the legend on the map says that all the trails are 50" when only the atv trails are 50" and there's no way to tell this with the map. He said " it does say 50" or less ". As if it's OK that a 42" quad can't fit if a 33" dirtbike can when the map says it's an atv trail. :bang: It became to both of us apparent that neither of us were going to budge so we decided to end the call before anyone.
It must have got him thinking because he called me back and said he had just talked to the legal department about the wording in the map legends. He did mention that he was not looking at maps when I talked to him earlier and that he was going to look into getting the maps corrected. It wasn't an apology, but I got the feeling he couldn't for legal reasons. Either way I was estatict and I stopped thinking about the smear compaign I was planning in my head since his first call.
Having the maps marked correctly will help with quads on the cycle trails and help people planning riding trips as to where they can ride their quads without the trial and error method. I often rode with people who couldn't ride a bike in the deep sand so they rode a quad. It was frustrating trying to find new trails we could both ride, so I hope getting the maps corrected will everyone.:yeehaw:
It started out innocently enough when I stopped by the local dnr office to get a state park sticker. I asked the lady behind the counter if she knew why the maps weren't marked to distinguish between atv and cycle trails. She didn't know anything about orv trail maps. But she knew who did and gave me my state park sticker with a sticky note on the back with a name and phone number of the guy who would. So I called and left him a message.
Steve from the Lansing office called me at 10:45 this morning and I explained my question to him. He insisted I was wrong and told me he was looking at the maps online as we were speaking. I pointed out maps that had both atv and cycle trails on the same map with no way to disern the difference. I explained that the legend on the map says that all the trails are 50" when only the atv trails are 50" and there's no way to tell this with the map. He said " it does say 50" or less ". As if it's OK that a 42" quad can't fit if a 33" dirtbike can when the map says it's an atv trail. :bang: It became to both of us apparent that neither of us were going to budge so we decided to end the call before anyone.
It must have got him thinking because he called me back and said he had just talked to the legal department about the wording in the map legends. He did mention that he was not looking at maps when I talked to him earlier and that he was going to look into getting the maps corrected. It wasn't an apology, but I got the feeling he couldn't for legal reasons. Either way I was estatict and I stopped thinking about the smear compaign I was planning in my head since his first call.
Having the maps marked correctly will help with quads on the cycle trails and help people planning riding trips as to where they can ride their quads without the trial and error method. I often rode with people who couldn't ride a bike in the deep sand so they rode a quad. It was frustrating trying to find new trails we could both ride, so I hope getting the maps corrected will everyone.:yeehaw: