KawieKX125
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Just another reason why I am glad I go to private school. It is so sad to see that we have come to a day that their is such a small tolerance for anything related to drugs or alcohol. :(
Government indoctrination centers...err, schools..
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How is this sad. The only benefit I see to alcohol is it provides many people with jobs. Then again it ruins many peoples lives. Why should we have any tolerance for things related to drugs or alcohol. Any illegal substances should not have any place at school. By illegal substance I am including alcohol as it is illegal for anybody still going to school. Unless you are a fith year senior or something. As for other legal drugs there is always the possibility that the child would share it the kid he shared it with could be allergic. If that happened you would see the oppisite of what your seeing now with parents complaining about lack of drug enforcement in school. No matter what a school does someone is going to dislike it. I support the zero tolerance policy. Because I feel that drug's or drug refrences have no place in schools.
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Milton, if that were your daughter being kicked out of school for drinking school supplied grape juice, or for having a tweety bird key chain, you would still say these policies are correct and sound? I think not...face it, government employees are usually people that are not qualified to work in the pivate sector doing anything more cerebral than flipping burgers, so they need these "guidelines for mindless people" in order to be able to perorm their jobs at all. Zero tolerance policies, like so many other government regulations, were never meant to be interpreted in such innane and assinine fashion when first proposed, but with people that are unwilling to think, interpret, and make a decision doing the enforcing of these policies, they have become distorted and perverted beyond any expectations. The Law of Unintended Consequences rings true far too often. Unfortunately, with these policies, it is children that are paying the piper.
So true...
Sounds like that girl goes to a pretty lienient school!
She would be expelled, and sent to the Alternative Learning Center for the remainder of the school year if she were in the Lee County School District.
Girls are often expelled for carrying Midol or Tylenol in their purses at school. All somebody has to do is assume they have it, and it happens ALL the time. To the administrators at my school, probable cause is being 15 and in the 10th grade. If you hang around somebody who they assume uses drugs, you are fair game. I've been searched twice, and for no reason.
When I protested, they said "We saw you with that Alex kid. We had cause to suspect he had some drugs so we had to search you." Both of us were clean. They suspected him because he dresses different. If you refuse to be searched, you are assumed guilty, and taken downtown to be searched anyways.
We are required to wear photo I.D. tags around our necks on an approved school issue lanyard at all times. When we do something at school, we are referred to by our student number. The tags have a barcode. I have been written up many many times for not wearing my dog tag. Just a few more times and I will be expelled... I still refuse to wear my tag. I am not a number. I have a name. I can carry my tag in my wallet.
Although my campus is completly enclosed, we are not allowed to leave the cafeteria during lunch. Not to go to the bathroom, not to go to the office to deliver something, not even to go back to a class to work on a project, help a teacher, or make-up a test.
When we go to the bathroom, we must sign out on a sheet, and use a pass from our bathroom pass book. We get one bathroom pass a day. There is not enough time between classes to go.
This is not some inner-city school. This is Dunbar High School in the small Southwest Florida city of Fort Myers.
Sounds like that girl goes to a pretty lienient school!
She would be expelled, and sent to the Alternative Learning Center for the remainder of the school year if she were in the Lee County School District.
Girls are often expelled for carrying Midol or Tylenol in their purses at school. All somebody has to do is assume they have it, and it happens ALL the time. To the administrators at my school, probable cause is being 15 and in the 10th grade. If you hang around somebody who they assume uses drugs, you are fair game. I've been searched twice, and for no reason.
When I protested, they said "We saw you with that Alex kid. We had cause to suspect he had some drugs so we had to search you." Both of us were clean. They suspected him because he dresses different. If you refuse to be searched, you are assumed guilty, and taken downtown to be searched anyways.
We are required to wear photo I.D. tags around our necks on an approved school issue lanyard at all times. When we do something at school, we are referred to by our student number. The tags have a barcode. I have been written up many many times for not wearing my dog tag. Just a few more times and I will be expelled... I still refuse to wear my tag. I am not a number. I have a name. I can carry my tag in my wallet.
Although my campus is completly enclosed, we are not allowed to leave the cafeteria during lunch. Not to go to the bathroom, not to go to the office to deliver something, not even to go back to a class to work on a project, help a teacher, or make-up a test.
When we go to the bathroom, we must sign out on a sheet, and use a pass from our bathroom pass book. We get one bathroom pass a day. There is not enough time between classes to go.
This is not some inner-city school. This is Dunbar High School in the small Southwest Florida city of Fort Myers.
another great story
Here is another great story from the Lee County School District.
There was a girl who missed her graduation last year... She was held back because school administrators found a weapon in her car. A nosy school resource officer was looking into cars and saw it... She had been packing a steak knife under hear seat.
Over the course of that weekend, the girl had been moving. The knife fell out of a box full of kitchen supplies and utencils. She didn't notice it there.
She missed graduating with her class because of this. When they had a hearing with the school board, they decided to uphold the original decision to keep the girl from graduating.
And why?
Because they didn't want other students to get the idea that you can get around zero-tolerance.
Asinine.
Here is another great story from the Lee County School District.
There was a girl who missed her graduation last year... She was held back because school administrators found a weapon in her car. A nosy school resource officer was looking into cars and saw it... She had been packing a steak knife under hear seat.
Over the course of that weekend, the girl had been moving. The knife fell out of a box full of kitchen supplies and utencils. She didn't notice it there.
She missed graduating with her class because of this. When they had a hearing with the school board, they decided to uphold the original decision to keep the girl from graduating.
And why?
Because they didn't want other students to get the idea that you can get around zero-tolerance.
Asinine.
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update
We have a bit of an update on the Amanda Williams suspension from the Gwinnett County Schools. You will remember Amanda received a nine-day suspension because she pretended that some grape juice she was drinking was actually wine.
Well --- the Gwinnett County government school administrators are getting quite a PR whipping on this one. The Wall Street Journal picked up the story – and people across the country are wondering what in the hell is going on in Gwinnett County, Georgia.
So … time to retaliate! Gwinnett County government school administrators are evidently going on the offensive – trying to make themselves look better. What better way to do that then to make Amanda look worse!
One school official is quoted as saying something to the effect that “Well, I don’t really know that it wasn’t wine.” There you go … make the little girl prove she was innocent. That ought to save your reputation.
Another officials is telling caller that the school administration will be glad to tell the “true story,” but only if Amanda’s mother will sign a release. Ohhhhhhh. Strange dark hints of something truly evil going on!!!
We have a bit of an update on the Amanda Williams suspension from the Gwinnett County Schools. You will remember Amanda received a nine-day suspension because she pretended that some grape juice she was drinking was actually wine.
Well --- the Gwinnett County government school administrators are getting quite a PR whipping on this one. The Wall Street Journal picked up the story – and people across the country are wondering what in the hell is going on in Gwinnett County, Georgia.
So … time to retaliate! Gwinnett County government school administrators are evidently going on the offensive – trying to make themselves look better. What better way to do that then to make Amanda look worse!
One school official is quoted as saying something to the effect that “Well, I don’t really know that it wasn’t wine.” There you go … make the little girl prove she was innocent. That ought to save your reputation.
Another officials is telling caller that the school administration will be glad to tell the “true story,” but only if Amanda’s mother will sign a release. Ohhhhhhh. Strange dark hints of something truly evil going on!!!
Will the mindless babble of school administrators never end?
Will the school administrators be able to crawfish their way out of this one?
Will little Amanda's parents sick a lawyer on the school board?
Will little Amanda become an alcoholic over this whole ordeal?
Will the school board get their heads out of their a$$es? or
Will spanky250 go on a shooting spree?
Stay tuned...:p :p
I know I will.
Will the school administrators be able to crawfish their way out of this one?
Will little Amanda's parents sick a lawyer on the school board?
Will little Amanda become an alcoholic over this whole ordeal?
Will the school board get their heads out of their a$$es? or
Will spanky250 go on a shooting spree?
Stay tuned...:p :p
I know I will.
CR Swade
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Public school officials, ie buffoons. Here in KC we have one of the worst public systems in the nation. Kawie125 hit the nail on the head as far as private school go. I work my arse off to keep our boys in a private school, but the difference in education is more than worth it.
These public administrators would suspend this little girl for a substance abuse policy over a substance they provided (which is actually a behavioral issue now), then probably harass her over not meeting the required days needed for progression to the next semester or grade. Then in the same demented breath , line up all of the little ones for their counselor-recommended ritalin:mad:
Whoever suggested they , being the school officials, get tested was 150% correct as there is no way in heck these were clear, lucid decisions.
These public administrators would suspend this little girl for a substance abuse policy over a substance they provided (which is actually a behavioral issue now), then probably harass her over not meeting the required days needed for progression to the next semester or grade. Then in the same demented breath , line up all of the little ones for their counselor-recommended ritalin:mad:
Whoever suggested they , being the school officials, get tested was 150% correct as there is no way in heck these were clear, lucid decisions.
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Have you ever listened to the news?
I also get info from my wife, she works in the school cafeteria at the school where my kids go. She tells me some amazing things that go on in schools, things that you won't hear on the news. She shares my views on getting the kids out of these ridiculous institutions as soon as possible.
I love my Dodge Dakota R/S, and I want a new bike, and I would love to take some nice vacations, but I will gladly give these things up to ensure that my children get a decent education without being brainwashed into little "pro-government" sheep.