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The following article appeared in the Press Enterpise today.
The link is here -

http://www.press-enterprise.com/news/1031717097.html

It reads:


Tribe votes to close motocross facility
SOBOBA RESERVATION: Park operators say there's a lease. An international competition is at stake.

BY RICH SASKAL
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE
SOBOBA RESERVATION

The Soboba Tribe of Luiseno Indians has voted to shut down a motocross track recently built on tribal lands.

The operators of Competition Park say that their lease means the tribe's action will have no effect on the track or a prestigious international competition scheduled there this month.

The vote to close the track comes a little more than three months after Competition Park moved to the nearby reservation from San Jacinto.

Concerns about dust control, sanitation and water led the tribe's general council to vote last weekend to shut down the park, effective immediately, said Robert Salgado, the tribal chairman.

But the track remained open Tuesday, with riders on the course and workers pouring concrete to prepare for the Motocross des Nations, the international competition scheduled Sept. 27-29.

Competition Park has a valid lease to operate the motocross venue on reservation land allotted to tribe member Ernie Salgado, said Jim Facciuto, one of the owners of the company that operates the park.

Tribal Chairman Robert Salgado said part of the track spills over onto land controlled by the tribe.

"They never had permission to use the tribal part," he said.

Facciuto said Competition Park is entirely on Ernie Salgado's land, adding that the controversy appears to be between brothers Ernie and Robert Salgado.

"We had this surveyed and staked out and everything before we signed the contract," he said.

Ernie Salgado did not return phone calls Tuesday. Robert Salgado said duty requires him to carry out the wishes of the general council.

International event

The dispute clouds the prospects of one of the most prestigious events in motocross racing. This year, teams from 27 nations on six continents have entered the Motocross des Nations.

It's a big event for the sport's dedicated fans, said Eric Johnson, editor of the motocross magazine Racer X Illustrated.

"The race coming here in America will draw people from Europe and around the world," he said.

He said a cancellation would reverberate throughout the motocross world.

"We're only three weeks out now," he said. "There's people and race teams and trucks and tools and motorcycles coming from around the world. Logistically it could be just a debacle."

Johnson said the choice of an unfinished track in an unfamiliar location had raised questions.

He said the local promoter, Malcolm McCassy, is doing a good job, but added that the Switzerland-based sanctioning body for motorcycle racing passed over established American tracks to award the world championship race to the unfinished Competition Park.

"Other promoters did want the race desperately," he said. "If this race would have been held at Glen Helen International Raceway I honestly believe there would have been 40,000 or 50,000 people." That raceway is in Devore.
 
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los36

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I read that earlier today, also. Doesn't sound too good. If it falls apart, who's going to look bad? America or Dorna?
 

dirt bike dave

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If it falls apart, the whole sport suffers.

At this point, there is a wide range of possibilities about what is going on and whether or not the event will be held as scheduled. I'm going to hold my opinions until more infomation is available, but I am very curious what the hell is happening down there.
 

bclapham

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i wonder how many mirrors Jim and malc broke before they moved in! The bad luck they seem to be having is inbelieveable, if this place closes i will be gutted, its been one of my favourite places to ride recently and not long after saddleback closed as well.

But remember, money talks in this world!
 

bclapham

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the more i think about it, i wonder if the Indians didnt realize how big the event would be and now they see Pepsi and the like flashing the cash they are becomming aukward so they can get more cash out of the promoters
 

rickyd

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I read an article on racerx, from what i understand, the MXDn will be held as planned.. After that, the track will be torn down..
RIck
 

2smoke

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Money money money.....that theory may be right... it might just be about money. I just hope the guys who pour all the money into this dont get burned.....but having to destroy what you just biult.....jeez.....I'd hate that.
 

motomike137

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Looks like some sort of squabble between two brothers within the tribe and whether the park infringed upon land it wasn't supposed to. Hope they get it all cleared up. I'll probably never see the place but I hope they manage to keep it open for the people who like to ride there also.
 

bclapham

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the more i think (oops ive started thinking again) about it i really do believe they are holding out for the cash. Allegedly, 10,000 tickest have been sold. The casino is the only place near the track for miles, if 20,000 get to the event and only 10% of the punters go to the casino over the 4 nights (a very easy possibility) and spend $50 thats about $500,000 in takings, and thats being modest.....so why would they want to close the park now, rather than after the event and a big pile of profit later? no-one in their right mind would do that. The cynical part of me thinks they are turning the money screws!

About the closing afterwards, the place was supposed to be returning to a full MX facility after the event, it has the potential to be one of the best facilities in the country, i ride there often and i will be gutted if it closes, weve lost saddleback here recently and if comp goes then the future looks bleak!:(
 

bclapham

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not a nice one, i have refrained from posting the details on this since i have not seen the real "facts" only internet rumours. sorry.
 

VintageDirt

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Are you guys talking about this accident :( :

From: http://www.firepolicemx.com/journal.htm
9-5-02 I just got off the phone with Malcolm McCassy, owner of of Comp Park. Here is the best info I could get on Eric Post. Eric was riding at Comp yesterday evening and had an accident, he was concious and complaining of back pain. He had stable vitals and was X4. He was transported via Ambulance to a local hospital. Three hours later his blood pressure dropped due to a torn aorta, he died in the hospital.
Eric was a Riverside Deputy and a member of the Soboba tribe.
As far as I know Eric never raced with the FPMN and was a beginner rider.
I'm sorry to hear of this tragic event.
God bless his family and friends.
Ed Wilson
 

JWW

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Sorry to bring it up Bruce. It was the first thing I thought of when I read about the closure.
 

holeshot

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Originally posted by bclapham
not a nice one, i have refrained from posting the details on this since i have not seen the real "facts" only internet rumours. sorry.

Same thoughts here.

I saw a post regarding the accident on ProRide.com, but I didn't want to post it (just in case it was false). Looks like it's true, so all the other "reasons" for closing the track could be a smoke screen. :silly: .
 
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Ol'89r

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I was thinking the same thing. Not a good way to start out a new track.

But, this appears to be a land dispute between two brothers and the promoter does have a contract signed for the event.

Maybe after the event they will see the $$$ potential for having the track there and change their minds.

Just my $ .02
 

bclapham

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Jeff and Ron....i wasnt trying to be an rude by posting that way, all we had to go on was rumour etc. it may be the reason all of this trouble has started epecially since the guy was one of the tribe. Lets hope something good comes from this, but not the closure of the park or the cancellation of the event.
 

holeshot

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Yet another article in the Press Enterprise -


Tribal officials push effort to close track
MOTOCROSS: Success could scotch an international race set for Sept. 28 at the Soboba Reservation.

09/14/2002

By RICH SASKAL
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE


SOBOBA RESERVATION - The fate of the San Jacinto Valley's only motocross track, and a prestigious international race planned there this month, remained in question Friday.

The event's promoters insist the Motocross des Nations, scheduled the weekend of Sept. 28 on a track on the reservation of the Soboba Band of Luiseno Indians, will not be affected by the tribal government's official opposition to the track. Promoters expect tens of thousands of fans from around the world for the three-day event.

But the tribe's chairman and a Bureau of Indian Affairs official say they are moving forward with plans to shut the track down.

Facing closure

In June, Competition Park moved to the Soboba Reservation from a smaller facility a few miles west in San Jacinto.

On Sept. 7, at a general meeting of the tribe, members voted to shut the track, citing concerns about dust, water and sanitation. Tribal Chairman Robert Salgado said the tribal council has asked the Bureau of Indian Affairs to enforce the decision.

Virgil Townsend, superintendent of the bureau's Riverside-based Southern California office, said the bureau's lawyers are working on a request for a temporary restraining order to close the track.

The track's general manager, Malcolm McCassy, said he is confident that the park cannot be closed before the Motocross des Nations in two weeks.

"We've talked to countless attorneys," he said. "We've weighed all the possibilities through numerous counsel and procedural issues with law enforcement. All those procedures are well after the event."

Townsend said he did not know how soon such a restraining order would be in place.

"We're the federal government, and we move really slow sometimes, and that's unfortunate," he said. He said he hoped a restraining order could be served next week.

McCassy said he is not a direct party to any action; his company simply has a contract to operate the track.

"We are not personally part of the battle, but there is a battle going on, and there is a team of attorneys working around the clock," he said.

The 75-acre motocross venue is on land allocated by the tribe to two individual members of the tribe, Ernest Salgado Sr. and Ernie Salgado Jr., McCassy said. The men are the father and brother, respectively, of the tribal chairman.

A call to Ernie Salgado Jr.'s business Friday was referred to an attorney in Orange County, Thomas Wolfsen, who said he was too busy with another emergency to speak Friday.

McCassy said the tribal council approved plans for the track before it was built.

Townsend said there is no approving resolution for the track from the Soboba tribal council. He also said there are no environmental impact statements on file with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, as he would expect for such a project.

The big event

The Motocross des Nations is one of the top events in motocross racing, featuring three riders from each nation competing on behalf of their countries. This year, 27 teams from around the world are scheduled to attend.

Townsend said he could not say one way or the other whether the park could be shut by Sept. 28.

"It's a developing situation, and you're not talking to a lawyer," he said.

McCassy said he did not think last weekend's vote to shut the track reflects the real wishes of the tribe.

Fewer than 30 members actually voted against the track at Saturday's meeting, McCassy said. McCassy said more than 175 members of the tribe attended a dedication ceremony in June for the new track, which he said indicates strong support.

Jim Faccuito, Competition Park's president and chief executive, said the park offers free admission to all Soboba youth, with more than 1,000 free rides since June.

Robert Salgado, the tribal chairman, dismissed the idea that the tribe might have another general meeting to reconsider the issue.

"The track people think they run the reservation, and they don't," he said. "It's a rude awakening for those people."

Reach Rich Saskal at (909) 763-3458 or [email protected]
 

slideways11

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Looks like a very sad situation....... Maybe the promoters could cut a last minute deal with Glen Helen.
 

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