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Message: [QUOTE="jimt_yz400, post: 171482, member: 21081"] What is a Tens unit? A contrast bath sounds interesting but I don't think that he has one of those. Regarding my DC , I've been seeing them for about 10 years now. I 've had a chronic lower back pblm that seems to be by design. I always have pblms with my lower back(even when I was young). The pblm went away for about 7 years (after seeing a chiro for a year) until I started to play soccer again (as well as riding) and now it really never goes away. I have pblms standing up for more than 45 minutes. The back becomes sore/stiff so when you bend over to pick up your brief case (or whatever) it's very tight. I've been seeing my chiro for over a year now ( I changed to a more progressive DC since I couldn't find one that would spend enough effort diagnosing my pblms) and seeing him once a day for about 6 months and for the last 8 mos. 3 days a week. That's a whole other ball of wax, the back pblm. It's odd since I never have a sore back from riding but if I stand for too long or even walk for tool long ( like an hour) it just kills me!! I haven't found any exercise that will help me with the standing so if you have any advice I'd appreciate it. I give presentations (I'm a pre-sales engineer, I keep the sales reps "honest") so need to constantly use the white board. It's better than a year ago, I can stand for 45min or more whereas before I was dead after 20 min, or less. I had a hard time trying to make myself breakfast for gods sake!! The knees: I've been icing them as much as I can and I've stopped riding, well sort-of, I rode a total of 30min in the last 2weeks. They don't hurt when riding though (and they feel better if I DO NOT wear the Astericks) they only hurt when I have to get on my knees to oil the chain or work on my bikes (which is alot lately) and when you go to get up it's very painful on the patella tendon. My DC thinks that I am stressing the heck out of them due to standing up while on the bike doing 20min motos (or whatever, maybe not that long).So, this isn't going away really just like my f&*^&%# back pblm!! I rode my moutain bike for 30 minutes (real light) since I have had good results with my knees recuperating using the bike, so we'll see how that goes. :( :( ...and I'm only 39!! [/QUOTE]

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