Need some advice
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ok, lets all agree i'm a d-i-c-k, (as in richard) there....i gotta tell ya, i read the letter and thought , were i the DA i'd try to tack on extra charges. it seems like a "hey i know i did wrong but i'm special and don't want to suffer the consequences" letter to me. just my take.
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- Jan 22, 2002
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Belive it or not I know of some guy who used to brag about his kid beating a speeding ticket becasue he was singled out from the crowd. A young kid driving a sports car.
Sounds kinda stupid but if your son can prove he was only doing the rate of traffic and prove he was singled out because he was young and driving a sports car registered out of state,<actually dont have to prove it but just raise enough of a question about it> it can be thrown out of court because of prejudice and profiling.<if you can, ask a Statey in New Jersey about this>.
That letter has as good as a chance as any, with only a bargaining plea of a non moving type violation, " I wasn't doing anything unsafe since I was doing the flow of traffic. I will pay the fine but please make it a non-moving violation" possibley having a better chance.
You have the cards out on the table which is already more than what the ticketing officer or the judge will expect. Good Luck!
Sounds kinda stupid but if your son can prove he was only doing the rate of traffic and prove he was singled out because he was young and driving a sports car registered out of state,<actually dont have to prove it but just raise enough of a question about it> it can be thrown out of court because of prejudice and profiling.<if you can, ask a Statey in New Jersey about this>.
That letter has as good as a chance as any, with only a bargaining plea of a non moving type violation, " I wasn't doing anything unsafe since I was doing the flow of traffic. I will pay the fine but please make it a non-moving violation" possibley having a better chance.
You have the cards out on the table which is already more than what the ticketing officer or the judge will expect. Good Luck!
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Well, here's the update. My son called me after he got out of court today. He and the trooper sat down and talked and the trooper thought he was going to fight it and deny that he was speeding. My son said he admits to speeding but was requesting a reduction in the violation because of the points that he'd get. The trooper says, "OK, no problem. I thought you were going to fight it and give me a rash of crap. I'll reduce it to 75 in a 65." :)
Too bad they couldn't have just done it over the phone but he tried and the DA wouldn't let him :think: In any case my son learned a valuable lesson.
Too bad they couldn't have just done it over the phone but he tried and the DA wouldn't let him :think: In any case my son learned a valuable lesson.
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Ok, so he got the ticket down to 10mph over but were the points dropped? That's what counts on the insurance not really how fast you were going (unless over 25mph). Plus the price difference isnt much between speeding ranges, trust me. :)
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Yeah the points are lower but he didn't tell me what they were. The money wasn't an issue as long as the points got lowered but he is getting a refund in the mail. He had to go ahead and pay the original fine when he sent in the not guilty plea so he'll get some of that back.
it has been my experience that most officers either don't know many details about how insurance works, or play really dumb about it (and for good reason). As frustrating as it is, they can't base their decisions on how it affects your insurance. No doubt they hear about "what this will do to my insurance" from about every other person they pull over.
I suppose you could ask a few questions about how many tickets they have had in the last 3-5 years and how it affected THEIR premiums, but that probably wouldn't go over real well. I'm not saying they can blatantly speed all they want, but no doubt the badge or police i.d. "accidently falls out of the pocket" on a regular basis when an off duty officer is pulled over.
I suppose you could ask a few questions about how many tickets they have had in the last 3-5 years and how it affected THEIR premiums, but that probably wouldn't go over real well. I'm not saying they can blatantly speed all they want, but no doubt the badge or police i.d. "accidently falls out of the pocket" on a regular basis when an off duty officer is pulled over.