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Message: [QUOTE="ellandoh, post: 1081325, member: 55695"] this is the way i would go . i have the archos av320 that has 20 gigs, but never needed the card reader accessory. this was years ago , im not up on them now but im sure they are even better now days . [url]http://www.archos.com/?country=global&lang=en[/url] also they are plenty rugged enough as i use mine as the recording device for the helmet cam. it tthen double duties as my 20gig ipod i would shop on their site , get the going rates from the online stores, then purchase from the auctioneers on the bay [/QUOTE]