Only two brands for Enduro bikes?????????

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It is my humble opinion and I would stand by it that only two manufacturers produce Enduro bikes out of the box. That would be KTM and Gas Gas(TM also but where is there a dealer)Yamaha WR's & YZF's are close ,Hondas in left field,Kawasaki,Suzuki are close but all need something added :but still only KTM and Gas Gas can be raced competitively out of the box.:cool:
 
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Husky's need no more mod's than a KTM or TM and are as cometitive out of the box.
 
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So either you don't ride Enduros or you like aftermarket mod's or you won't be xrsforever forever?
 

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Add Husqvarna and VOR to that list. In the European Enduro series open class Husky won and a VOR took second. That VOR didn't have anything you couldn't have.:)
 
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I would add Husky & VOR to the list,and yes I do ride enduros,but bike is not stock,and if I get serious I would keep my XR as a playbike and lean toward KTM for competition.:cool:
 

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I'm glad to see you have rethought that statment. So let's see Husky, KTM, Gas Gas, Vor, TM, how about Husaburg? That would make 6!
 

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I agree about the Husky. But I don't consider VOR and TM anywhere near mainstream enough to be considered in the same class as the others.
 

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Interesting perspective. A few years ago KTM wasn't considered "mainstream", few would consider GG mainstream now. Husky has been up and down but they have a fairly long and established history.

I still see an awful lot of KDXs and XR4s at the races without significant mods. There are also a ton of RMs, CRs, YZs and KXs out there with minor mods - all made for less than the difference in price of the euro bikes.

I know we are talking "enduro racing" specifically, but out here a lot of folks think the XR650R is one of the few bikes to ride in the desert - right out of the box (kind of). It's all a matter of perspective.
 

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Originally posted by justql
I agree about the Husky. But I don't consider VOR and TM anywhere near mainstream enough to be considered in the same class as the others.
Well I guess TM is pretty hard to come by, but there are more VOR dealers in Florida than Husky dealers. In the whole state of Florida there are the following non-big-four authorized motorcycle dealers, 11 KTM, 5 Gas Gas, 2 Vor and 1 Husqvarna. I get all my Husky parts mail order from a dealer in MO. Although the local Gas Gas/VOR dealer is trying to get a Husky dealership also.
 

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For the price you cannot beat these bikes. When I priced DR it was going to cost me over $7000 to get it race ready. A Gas Gas cost you more out the door, around $6000 but it's ready to go. FMF, wheels, chains, etc. No way you can consider a Jap bike the same caliber. Look at a Gas Gas close then look at one of the big four.
As far as mainstream. Most enduros on BJEC, TSCEC, and SERA are loaded with Gas Gas. I guess I live in a vacuum, while I have seen a few TM's I do not ever remember seeing a VOR.
I'm not talking in a few years. TM will probably be there once they get more bikes out.
 

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I went from an RMX to the Gas Gas. If they vstill made them I might have bought one of them.
 

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I don't know about all that . . . the top 2 riders at our last enduro were both on 2001 RM 125s with fairly few mods. Both had computers, one guy had a steering damper and big tank, the other did not. Both had stock suspension and gearing. And the winner wasn't even breathing hard at the end of the 120 mile race in some nasty, rocky, steep conditions.

Don't get me wrong, I love my KTM. But I know plenty of fast guys on Jap bikes. There is a large amount of KDXs and KTMs, only a few Gas Gas at the NMA events that I've attended.
 
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90% rider 10% bike

However, I do better when that 10% is a GasGas. ;) However, there were a lot of Huskys at the central Ill harescrambles on Sunday.

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