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[QUOTE="James, post: 695395, member: 27207"] 1. I agree that we do not know the exact provisions of the law and I did specify IF. I searched and basically found what JP did which would imply that dirt bikes are illegal within the Baltimore city limits. So while the dirt bikes might have been legally purchased, it appears that it is illegal to possess them within the city limits, hence the ability for them to bust down the doors and take them. Illegal is illegal, just like drugs, gambling, guns, and certain relations with your spouse in some states. BUT, don't fool yourself about the 4th amendment. A whole plethora of laws and interpretations have pretty much nullified the bill of rights. I have already mentioned the seizures of autos in NJ...a VERY SIMILAR situation. It started as an ordinance to prevent junk cars from accumulating in people's back yards. It was eventually perverted to the point where antique car collectors were being hassled by the sheriffs office. ALSO, tell an officer that he can't search your car during a traffic stop without a warrant and see what happens. Additionally, are you the least bit familiar with asset forfeiture laws that allow the government to seize your money and property under the slightest suspicion that you are involved in drug dealing or money laundering? You are guilty until proven innocent and don't be surpirsed if your property gets misplaced before you prove yourself innocent. Don't let them catch you walking around with a bunch of cash in your pocket. Look into the domestic violence laws that allow them to come into your house and seize any firearms or other possible weapons and place restraining orders on you before trial. Once again, don't be surprised if you have a hard time reclaiming your property once you are found innocent. If you really want to lose some sleep, take a look at the actual details of Patriot Acts I and II. Look into what Poindexter was working on before he got fired (Total Information Awareness). See if you come away with some sort of idea about how the government feels about your constitutional rights. 3. I also assume you are not a law officer and do not know many. Just like an officer can chose to give you a traffic ticket or not.....an officer can charge you for illegally carrying concealed or let you off with a warning, they can impound your bike for riding on the highway or let you off with a warning, they can arrest you for having an illegal poker game or just break it up, they can arrest you for trying to pick up a prostitute or just send you home, they can choose to give you the field sobriety test or not, etc. etc. I don't see any reason why they couldn't choose not to seize somebodies dirtbike from their garage when that person obviously isn't dealing drugs or operating it on the highway. I did a ride along with the PD not long ago and they can show you where all of the drug houses are...I said "why aren't they being busted instead of us just driving around?" He shrugged his shoulders. Officer discretion goes far beyond minor traffic violations...and like my job, I make many decisions without my supervisor's direct involvement. And to clarify, we are talking about officers overlooking the fact that somebody simply possesses a dirt bike, not about an officer ignoring the fact that a bike is stolen. So I'll reiterate: I don't know for certain that they are just driving around seizing dirtbikes BUT from all information presented and from what I have found on the internet...it seems possible. So based on that, I would hope that the police had better things to do than cruise around and seize dirtbikes out of people's garages because last time I was there...it sure didn't seem like the drug problem had been solved. I know when I took my oath it was to uphold the constitution....not blindly enforce every stupid law that some misguided politician passed while over reacting to a problem or as a feel good measure so they could say they "were doing something." [/QUOTE]
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