Reed Cage Question

Wolf

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Is there a right way and a wrong way to install a reed cage?
There is a tab on the cage frame, the manual says to put the cage in with the tab facing left, the picture in the manual shows the tab facing right (looking from the back towards the front).
I think when I took it out, the tab was facing right, but I didn't pay attention... :(
2000 KDX 200

 

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The way to tell is to hold up the carb boot and see if it looks right, either you will see right through, or if it is wrong the white plastic piece will obstruct the air path.(don't ask me how I know:)

 

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I think my tab is to the left (facing front), so you can push on it to get the cage out. It looks that way on patsfish, but it's a little blurry. Anyone else?

 

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As strider said...the cage and the phenolic block only fit (correctly) one way. You can fit them the other way, and as I found out....'er...uh...I mean as he found out (freudian slap there) your bike will run for diddle, throttle response will be awful.

You determine the correct way exactly as strider said, too. Look thru the assy (boot, reed block), turn it around the other possible way and look again. The correct way will be obvious.

A BTW...the DFII has a fit along the same lines. It would seem reasonable to install it with the ID tab 'up', but that it won't fit that way too well (likely). It should be installed with the ID tab down. (This doesn't appear applicable to the thread, but I put it here for a reason)

The attached pic shows the DFII upside down from the way it fits..but this way you can SEE the ID tab I'm talking about.

 

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Wolf

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Of course...I went with the "other" way. I have a few 4 letter words in mind right now...

Thx for the help :thumb:

 

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Thks good buds, your thee best !

....each four letters a piece! ;)

 

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KAY DEE EXER

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LOL Hey CC is that a pic of your DF2 (KDX) cos unless I'm mistaken my reeds are 3 petal? rather than 2 petal in the pic. Thats if they're even called petals??? I could also be wrong.

 

Wolf

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canyncarvr said:

Thks good buds, your thee best !

....each four letters a piece! ;)

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Yeah, those were it :debil:

 

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Yes, it's a DFII in the pic...not mine.

RE: 'My reeds are three petal..'
Meaning your oem reeds? Yes, they (oem KDX 'H' reeds anyway) are three petal..three on the top, three on the bottom.

The DFII has two on the top, two on the bottom..............but there are two cages stacked atop each other for a total of eight petals. Reed tip area is greatly increased. That's a large factor in its performance factor.

BTW, the tab that started this thread is indeed on the left (shifter) side of the bike. And, yes, there is a picture in the manual referencing the removal of the cage that shows the thing upside down. NIce of 'em to do that, 'eh?

The manual also clearly states on install to mount the cage with the tab to the left. And, again, if you put the carb boot up to the cage and look thru from the carb's point of view the correct orientation will be clear.

The orifice (entry) of the phenolic part of the cage (the white resin/plastic piece) is off-center because the carb doesn't mount even-steven to the cylinder...it's to the left of center also. That's the purpose of the white part...to direct/smooth the incoming charge around the 'corner' into the cylinder.

 

Wolf

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canyncarvr said:

Yes, it's a DFII in the pic...not mine.

BTW, the tab that started this thread is indeed on the left (shifter) side of the bike. And, yes, there is a picture in the manual referencing the removal of the cage that shows the thing upside down. NIce of 'em to do that, 'eh?

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Did you have to bring that up again?....more 4-letter words come to mind...again

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No probs CC. I finally got the V-Force2 over to Australia but I was so eager to put it in I didn't really look at it too closely. I was sorta finkin' that maybe they were similar to the pic attached. As I said though I'm probably mistaken. Thanks again CC.

 

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While I don't sit at the loading dock of MotoTassinari to check all their outgoing packages, I don't think they make a 12-petal valve for the KDX.

What you have pictured goes in a KX for one...certainly others, but not the KDX.

There is a DeltaForceIII, but not an application for the KDX that I've seen.....and I don't know that it's a 12-petal valve either.

There may be some confusion on the whole issue.....the last time I ordered replacement reeds for my DFII, I got 3-petal reeds. That was a mistake on the part of the person @MT that took the order over the phone.

..which is why if you have a question other than of a general nature you should ask to talk to Jeff (tech support) at MotoTassinari. He knows what goes where.

 

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Thanks CC its no biggie really. :thumb: I was just curious. Im sure you are right. :worship:

 

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I'm not...which is why all the caveats were noted!

Oh...you've maybe heard of fitment problems with the DFII? Maybe 'they' were trying to fit the 12-valve in??

If reed tip area is good..12 reeds must be better'n 8!

Make it fit!!

...where's my angle grinder...........

 

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:rotfl: Now I'm gonna hafta take it out to check. Ill be right back... Now where's my crowbar ???