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Message: [QUOTE="ktmboy, post: 159032, member: 22559"] Truth be told, those exhausts add nothing but noise, not horsepower. (Very little anyways.) There are two ways to build a fast Civic: a) Drop an R motor in it, or b) go the turbo / nitrous route. LoP, I've built a few VWs', and been around some very fast ones. The sound of a pair of Weber carbs is not foreign to my ears, and if I was to hear that sound next to me at a stoplight, I would not hesitate to roll very slowly away from that light so it was apparent that I had no intention of being embarrassed by said VW. As I had stated earlier, mine is just a commuter with some nice wheels, but once in awhile some jerk-off will come along in a wanna-be race car, and I'll feel obligated to embarrass him.I'm not saying I think it's fast, just faster than many of the other slugs out there. As for the Lightning; yes, that would be a sweet bike hauler! I love American trucks, I just won't buy their autos anymore. [/QUOTE]