I got tired of getting my rear kicked by these little rice burners, so I bought one! Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. BTW, my stock Civic does 115 MPH, and gets 35 MPG at 80 MPH with the air on. Don't miss my Detroit iron one bit!:cool:
It's too bad you don't live closer so I could take you out and spank you. This will be my last post on this subject, as I have noticed from your previous posts that your goal seems to be to stir up people just to see what kind of response you can get. It's really not important to me wether my car can beat a Camaro or a Mustang,etc. I bought for it's economy and reliability, something I've never gotten out of all the Detroit cars I've owned. (BTW, Civics are assembled in the U.S.) The only reason I stated the top speed was because the 80 MPH statement was off the mark. And yes, as a matter of fact, I have spanked a few V-8s. Do you think the ones that have beaten me are gonna brag? About what-"I beat a 4 banger?"
I can't believe the irony of a person who implies that he rides a Suzuki doesn't like riceburners!!:eek:
I just have to give my .02$ here. I live in Japan and see nothing BUT "riceburners", most of which are turbocharged and quite fast. I hate to say it, but I really think that the US car manufacturers are a little behind the times. And honestly, displacement means little when you are talking good turbo setups here, just look at the success of the Buick GNX (and to think that car was built 15 years ago).
What I really love about american cars, though, it how cheap it is to build horsepower. Just a couple thousand dollars invested in a Chevy 350 can build you a screaming engine!:p
as to the matter of you refering to these "rice burners" those rice burners are made in ohio from other products here in the tri-state area(steel, aluminum, and 95% of the other materials)Honda's plant is in ohio, Toyota's plant is in West Virgina, and most other "rice burning" brands are owned by a parent company i.e. Mazda is owned by ford, Izuzu, Suzuki cars are owned by General Motors. So, in short, most "rice burners" are more american made than ford, GM, and chrysler. personally, i do hate those "rice burners" (i.e. ford, gm, chrysler), just give me my good reliable american truck(92 toyota pick up)
Originally posted by smb_katoomer as to the matter of you refering to these "rice burners" those rice burners are made in ohio from other products here in the tri-state area(steel, aluminum, and 95% of the other materials)Honda's plant is in ohio, Toyota's plant is in West Virgina, and most other "rice burning" brands are owned by a parent company i.e. Mazda is owned by ford, Izuzu, Suzuki cars are owned by General Motors. So, in short, most "rice burners" are more american made than ford, GM, and chrysler. personally, i do hate those "rice burners" (i.e. ford, gm, chrysler), just give me my good reliable american truck(92 toyota pick up)
I should stay out of this idiotic dispute, but the above statement rubs me the wrong way. Japanese cars are Japanese cars no matter where they are final assembled. All the intelligent work (read highly paid) is done in Japan by the Japanese. That includes engineering, accounting, management etc. In many ways we have been suckered into being cheap labor subcontractors for the Japanese car makers while at the same time they convince us that Honda is now an American car because the pre-engineered parts are finally bolted together in Ohio.
The Statement you speak of is meant to let people know that Americans were working and getting paid for the manufacture of that car. That being said, the corporate profits I'm sure some how find their way to Japan. As for who the high paid designers are... I think if corporate American auto manufacturers wanted to they could also come up with these designs... I'm note sure why they don't but then I still believe that politics is above board (well maybe not but I like to believe it) but I’m sure it has something to do with it. And last but not least.....do you work on your own American car.....do you have to use metric wrenches?
BTW I am the proud owner of : F150 4x4 extended cab pickup, Cavalier, WR250-2S, XR 100, DT 175, CT70 and an OLD F150 and I’m looking at an EXC 200!
Buy American just does not mean what it use too, get use to it , it ain't gonna change! :(
JohninKY,I agree most components are built outside of the U.S. but Nissan does build their v6 and v8(coming) engines in Decherd,Tn and they are a assembled in Smyrna,Tn or better known here as Smyrnasaki.:)
Wow.. You must have some time and money in your car. I love all *fast cars whether it be a good old fashioned V8 pushing 400 ponies or a supped I6TT. I know there are fast civics...just have yet to see one. My wife thinks there cute..Im trying like hell to talk her out of it. I agreed to test drive one with her if she agreed to test drive the s2000 right after!! <evil grin> even went as far as to offer to help pay for the auto if it could be a Ford lighting mmmm supercharged 5.2-liter v8 yummy! <and you can throw your moto in the back!!!> I've seen this discussion time and time again in different forums..suprised to see it here. Being the listers here are much more mature the conversation is surprisingly relaxed and informative. I must admit I do luv pulling up to *riced out anything in my '59 bug and blowing the doors off of them with my FI2276 although I have taken my licks by other enthusiasts ..there is always someone faster.
But I can say I have never been beaten by a civic :p