(to music) Amen, amen, aiiiimen. amen, amen !!!!!! :cool: :cool:Okiewan said:AMA pro races is bogus, it doesn't need to be that way. Cut them all back to TRUE 92 dB and the racing will be JUST AS GOOD.
And that is a Fact!Okiewan said:Doesn't matter what any other sport does though, WE are the ones losing places to ride. Including our own property.
Okiewan said:Doesn't matter what any other sport does though, WE are the ones losing places to ride. Including our own property.
Okiewan said:NASCAR? I guess people can put up with the noise for a week when it brings $$ millions into the local economy ...
jsned said:I am not ranting about 4 strokes vs 2 strokes but I am telling you we are fighting a losing battle if we try to do it ourselves. If the AMA, private park owners, and track owners dont enforce something it aint going to change. I feel this way because I have brung up the loud pipe issue with freinds and people at these places i ride, and most of the time I am told to stop bitching and leave them alone. I am getting as frustrated as anyone.
"I'll reiterate the most important part about the dyno implication: You do not ride a dyno, nor do you ride your bike in conditions anything like what a dyno tests at."..
Jimmy Lewis, Dirt Rider Magazine.
Okiewan said:While I'm on the soap box :)
How many of us, you know, the average Joe riding/racing public can guarantee faster lap times with pipe "x" over stock? Or that a Q pipe / stock pipe is slower? How many HP did I give up?
HajiWasAPunk said:Unless I'm misunderstanding something, they're basically the same for the guys riding the 125 class as the 250 class. If this hp doesn't matter for the best riders in the world, there's no way it does for the other 99.9999% of people.
Understanding your plight, would you be willing to give a price break to riders whose machines were tested and verified below a set dB limit?kiboy said:As a track owner it would be difficult for me to enforce this alone and loose the revenue. Most tracks are in the same situation I'm sure, no money, close the gates. My opinion is the need for AMA support and the trickle down effect it would cause.
Nice marketing idea. It might possibly get some of your customers to comply and help their wallets. There are some possibilities available for owners that explore a new approach and I will hellp promote those possibilities anyway that I can.FruDaddy said:Understanding your plight, would you be willing to give a price break to riders whose machines were tested and verified below a set dB limit?
kiboy said:As a track owner it would be difficult for me to enforce this alone and loose the revenue. Most tracks are in the same situation I'm sure, no money, close the gates. My opinion is the need for AMA support and the trickle down effect it would cause.
How many Nascar races per year in your state? thats not a valid comparison.dirtbikr99 said:What about nascar races? I went to the daytona 500 and that was signifigantly louder than any MX race iv ever been too!
I do feel that more quiet bikes r better for the sports as a whole because we dont want to get shut down because of it. But in another aspect a race track is going to be loud and the tracks location and the event times needs to be in acordance to this.
But riding in personaly property aswell as on legal trails and recriational riding the bikes should be regulated.
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