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Everyone should read this link and forward it to everyone you know. Especially those who are politically comatose.

Environmentalists Ultimate Goal: Return 50% of the United States to Wildlands!
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200104247.shtml
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That is some scary stuff. I kept reading that article wondering how anybody could come up with such a ridiculous plan.


Oh well, I guess I'll be adding Patagonia to the list of stuff not to buy. Pretty soon I won't be able to buy anything.

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Obviously these people want areas that no human being can see or be seen. Instead of fighting with them, lets just give them the moon. Tell the idiots that they can do what ever they want with it, and that we will absolutely leave it alone for as long as they like. It will this way be left in its "natural" state.
 

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So what IS the average dimensional weight (shipping weight) of an eco terrorist?
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Seriously, this is scary... but I was happy there for a second there!

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Originally posted by OffRoadWarrior:
Environmentalists Ultimate Goal: Return 50% of the United States to Wildlands!

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Why do these people feel this way?? Why are they so radical?? I’ll tell you why. Now I’m going to do a little preaching here so hold on to your helmets!

Genesis 1:27-28

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them. Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and SUBDUE it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

What does that mean?? It means that God Himself said that the earth is ours to use as we need. Not take ½ of it and protect it so that no one can use it, walk on it, ride on it… Now the people who want to preserve ½ of the planet are trying to put animals on the same level as we are. Animals are Gods creations also, but they are not equal in value to us. We need to be good stewards of what God has given us but that doesn’t mean to put it away so that no one can use it…

That my friends and riding buddies is the heart of the problem, which is why we must fight and bring back some common sense thinking into this country. That is why we should write letters, make phone calls, and vote people into office who have similar viewpoints to our own. We need to stop letting these waco’s get their way because they have the squeakiest wheel and start fighting on our own.

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Kinda makes you wonder what kind of drugs their on. IMO that would kill our economy,billions and billions of dollars spent on everything from fish hooks to 1/2 million dollar RVs. The revenue loss , Business shut down,the goverment would go broke due to the tax revenue lost or we all move into a 90% tax bracket.

Awh **** I'm going ride'in
 

Sugarhead

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Wow this is scary.There doing this as a 1 world global take over and dictatorship of america.This is an antichrist thing going on here.If this is allowed people who own private land will have no say in the matter it will be yanked and,we will be locked down no place to move. In fact maybe 10 years ago In in inlet NY where my aunt lives they wanted to pull this and the people got together and shut these drug addicted radicals down.We need to air mail these freaks to russia and china,they are no good for our country,when corporations are behind thses people something evil is going down sooner or later.Read Revelations and open your eyes and you will understand there is a higher power at work here.They should give us the land to manage as off-roaders.We have a preserve the open land in Nj,Its nothing but to raise our taxes and make money and shyster the tax paying citizens.it works like this town buys land,next thing ya know its a housing development or golf course.They tear up forest lost forever ,its not about the environment,they dont want to save spit,its about the power and money,the green agenda is just a front to take it all.Some people wont agree w me here but every 1 wanted bush to erase what clinton did and not backdown to that kyoto treaty,hes doing what the people want and hes getting it stuffed to him.Maybe we should send 50 percent of the country to china.What i dont agree w is Look at ted kazinski and timothy mcveigh both very evil people,w green/hate agendas just like Dave From Earth 1st but its ok for him to have a murderous attitude but not alright for these too.Ehh just kinda scary then again look at Hilter how fast he came into power took over,History will repeat itself because of the ignorance and arrogance going around if were not careful.
 

dual-sporter

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why do they take the absolute extreme on this issue?

simple:
if they take the exptreme from the beginning and refuse to compromise, then we (the real side of society) have to compromise in thier direction,on each and every issue... ultimately compromising to the point that they have achieved thier original goals.

its already been going on for a long time now... why should they stop now?
 

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Hmmm... Makes me want to open a can of whoop-a@@ on these extremist freaks.

I really hope it nevers comes down to this, but ask yourself how many wars have been fought over land and idealism? Since they claim to be warriors, the idea is not that far fetched. In reality, these guys are probably just global gardners with an attitude using "the environment" as a shield to block any arguments against their rediculas ideas. But this "warrior" talk gets me fired up.

I'll admit that I sort of like the idea of more undeveloped land, since that is where *ALL* the best riding is found.(Usually golf courses, parks and cemetaries are off limits.
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NO FLAMES) Of course after all the land is "un-developed", they would be the only people allowed to occupy it, just to monitor things you understand.

What if they were successful? Let's say half the land is returned to it's natural state and the animal population returns pre-human conditions? They are not going to be happy with the destruction left in the wake of a herd of 500,000 bison. In comparison, dirt bike, atvs, and off-roaders in general, are almost undetectable. Sadly, before the garden actually matures, some big asteriod will hit the earth and take it all out.

The problem is this, it is imposible to satisfy their request because they will never be satisfied. They are basically anti-human. They don't want to see any traces of humans, they don't want to hear any humans, and they don't want to smell any humans (at least each other judging by the look of them). Unfortunately, they are human and it is that fact that makes them insane and will ultimately lead to their down fall.

Most of the people reading this thread, like me, have already written their congressmen, senators, and goverment officials to stop this kind of lunacy. If you haven't you are one of them. I hate to take an earth first stance but you are either with us or against us.

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Rush Limbaugh has talked about these wackos and their agendas before. He says that it's the new home for communism. It's all about CONTROL! I never thought about it that way, but it makes perfectly good sense.

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Dude thats a good quote from the bible, we are animals too, so giving land to other animals isnt even natural. Natural selection is when one species dominates another. Its great that people want to preserve living things and some land, but trying to close off 1/2 the land of the United States is just an expression of there anti-sociality.

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Dude thats a good quote from the bible, we are animals too, so giving land to other animals isnt even natural. Natural selection is when one species dominates another. Its great that people want to preserve living things and some land, but trying to close off 1/2 the land of the United States is just an expression of there anti-sociality.

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Calamari Racer,I can believe that what Rush says.Read my post ya might not agree w all of it but alot of it is true.Golf courses have the best hills,man i cant wait till they turn it into all natural land even more trails to blaze w my kdx and banshee and w all this land and No people I wont even have to worry about getting caught this is great maybe there finally seeing it our way.More land for all the off-roaders does a body good just like milk.lol

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It all boils down to this! What's your philosophical
view about how the Earth came into existence. It's either in the beginning "God created the heavens and Earth", or in the beginning "Evolution".
In more simplified terms: In the beginning
"GOD" or in the beginning "ROCK"
If you believe that you came from GOD, then
you're accountable to HIM, and your actions
will reflect that. But... if you believe you
"evolved",(came from the big bang, or matter, or a rock), then your actions will reflect that belief. After all,
if you came from monkeys then it is no surprise that you would act like one. Or if you came from "Mother Earth" why not worship
it too, and try to kill off man-kind in the name of helping restore the Earth. Well, lets start with YOU, Eco-freak!
Well, here lies the problem. The evolutionist must bank on the fact that there will be some do-gooders or "Christians"
to compensate for the sins or destruction that they cause. In other words, lets say that I'm an eco-terrorist and I start destroying land, or people, or property, in the name of the betterment of our Earth, Ultimately there has to be people to fix the mess I've created. Do you think that the eco-freaks are going to do that?? It's the good, sensible, God fearing people that have to fill in the gap for these deceived, and licentious, heathens.
The real culprit though, is the teaching of Evolution as "fact" in our public schools. Evolution is a RELIGION taught in our public schools at our taxpayers expense.
Put the 10 commandments back in school and allow prayer back in too!! I would be willing to bet that this country would be in MUCH better shape, and all the problems with shootings and gangs and such, would diminish too. People would be better informed about
what is really going on in government and things that REALLY matter in life too. Our whole basic attitude about life towards others and ourselves would change for the better too. Not to mention we would have more and better riding too.
Unfortunately, the sinful human nature of fallen man cannot be changed outside of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
The Bible states that "There is none righteous, no, not one." Romans 3:16
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, where by we must be saved". Acts 4:12
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
"...what must I do to be saved?"...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

There's the real answer to the problem!!!
God Bless America! Erik
P.S., FMXnovice, (based on your response)and others who believe in evolution, Please check out www.drdino.com
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Sugarhead

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I have a question about sustainable living areas these sound like nazi camps or something like russia,what will this mean if we go into the woods we get shot?KTM since you seem like a good christian go to www .dr jack van impe ministries .com and type in Ted turner it gives ya a whole bunch of files,the 2nd to last file talks about maurice strong,The new Agers and the greenies go together,this file states how this man and ted turner are trying to replace christianity w nature based religions walla NEW AGE. I believe it also says this man wants to lock up 50 percent of america.I looked this man up hes as corrupt as they come living on both sides of the fence and Is on the UN,so do we have problems.It also stated about company of rome which wants a 1 world socialist government and is gonna break the world into regions and trade some of our freedom away and sovereinity for world dominance and security,which i dont believe very scary.This is no longer a off-roaders issue but something alot bigger and vile and both sadly an happily as a christian these things must come to pass if Jesus is to come back like it says in the bible and these things are happening,thats what so scary sometimes.I feel the most for the people that cant see any of it coming down.

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What's really F'ed up is that all of their money (well, the bulk of it) comes from corporate sources and people who are employed in the various industries and businesses they aspire to do away with - utter hypocrisy!

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Sorta like the cops being payed by the mob.

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Originally posted by KTM400MAN:
It all boils down to this! What's your philosophical
view about how the Earth came into existence. It's either in the beginning "God created the heavens and Earth", or in the beginning "Evolution".
In more simplified terms: In the beginning
"GOD" or in the beginning "ROCK"
If you believe that you came from GOD, then
you're accountable to HIM, and your actions
will reflect that. &lt;snip&gt;
Unfortunately, the sinful human nature of fallen man cannot be changed outside of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
The Bible states that "There is none righteous, no, not one." Romans 3:16
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, where by we must be saved". Acts 4:12
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
"...what must I do to be saved?"...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

There's the real answer to the problem!!!
God Bless America! Erik
P.S., FMXnovice, (based on your response)and others who believe in evolution, Please check out www.drdino.com

WAY TO GO KTM400MAN. I could feel the Hovind coming through as I was reading. Well said and it needs repeating.


FMXNovice, Thanks for the complement, but I am not and neither is anybody an animal. We are made in Gods own image. Don't let anybody tell you, you are an animal, you are not! PLEASE look at that website KTM400MAN posted www.drdino.com He has a lot of subject matter that will teach you a few things you will be interested in. Unfortunately public schools teach Evolution, but it is simply a theory and NOT true. If you have any questions about Dr. Hovinds website, just email him, he will send you something back.

Again, WAY TO GO KTM400MAN (I think I might even try a KTM now!)


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All you jesus freaks are just as sick as the earth first wackos. Evolution is a scientific theory, not a religion. The ten commandments should definately not be displayed in our public schools. You people make me sick.

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Ivan Liechty

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Well Brian, everyone else can thank you for getting a good discussion closed down.

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