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Message: [QUOTE="Crash 142, post: 851795, member: 31743"] I think for MX, ideal springs, leaning too light rather than too stiff, with stiff valving. But I think it depends on what bike you're on, too. I have never felt a need to change springs until I got my 2004 RM 250. The bike is great, and very responsive. I'm 160 pounds, and with the stock springs it was bouncing or 'bucking' coming into the corners. Now with lighter springs front and rear, and with the clickers stiffened up, it feel smuch better. It feels more 'calm,' where before it seemed like it was springing back up too abruptly. And yes, I played with the rebound, but then if seemed to pack down and even bottom going through the braking bumps. Now the bike is calm and perfect. Maybe it rides lower in the stroke, but it feels good that way. As for bottoming on jumps - the stiffer valving will start working as soon as the bike touches down, so 'riding low in the stroke' shouldn't hurt bottoming from jumps much (yes, I know the lighter springs will). It seems real calm now entering corners in the braking bumps, and also very calm and 'predictable' riding through the corners. The only downside I've felt is the bike seems to compress a lot on jump faces. Not sure if this will turn out to be a bad thing or a good thing. The bike still jumps neutrally. So my vote for MX set up is 'ideal'/soft springs with stiffer valving. [/QUOTE]